"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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does this sound like a clear flake?

big weezy

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the hot pof model i was suppose to meet this weekend but never confirmed a time i cant tell if i'm being fobbed up, i assume so. what would you guys send as a response?

the convo started on pof like this where she asked for skype/msn and i said use bbm instead:

her:
don't have a BB unfortunately
Weekend sounds good to me, let's see and maybe confirm by the end of this week?

me: i'm a busy man i'm on my bb right now, i have a few things going on this week and on the weekend but i should have a couple hours free on Sat and Sun to hear your sexy accent and your life story, and how you've come to where you are now in this country.

leave me your number then.

her: Ok, let's keep in touch and see what we can arrange for this weekend.
My number is ***********, it will be nice to meet and have a nice converstation

i text her last night:

hey lets get together at x place this weekend, i have a few things on but should have a couple hours free at 4pm Sat/Sun, how's then?

a day later today:

hey, thank you for message. unfortunately im stuck home with a flu so unless i feel really better by tomorrow i'd suggest meeting up another day?


the being ill thing is an excuse right, what would you guys send back?

i think being ill is so cliche and BS even if it's true.

what would you suggest i respond with? i feel like she should offer me another day now but given she's 'ill' she won't know when she's better so technically doesn't have to.

i get it, she wants me to offer another time to see if i will.

should i just stick to sunday and see if she grabs the bait.

i feel like a chump if i offer another day?

i was gona send tomorrow:

it's ok, i've already made other plans for today, i can still do tomorrow at 4 otherwise how's mon evening at 8pm at x place?


i think this is me showing i'm way too available? im not thinking straight.


maybe i should just keep to the sunday and see if she takes the bait.

'it's ok, i've already made plans for today. i can still do tomorrow at 4 though. let me know by tomorrow morning.'

is this better?

tbh im not looking at the big picture. Low IL.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This is a very standard situation. You set a time with a girl, she says she can't make it- the classic excuses are illness and work. Low IL girls will say they can't make it and then not suggest another time, in the hope that you get the hint that they're not interested. Girls with a higher IL and a genuine excuse will say they can't make it, then suggest an alternative time. Why? Because they want to see you!

As this girl suggested you meet up some other time, there is a very good chance that her flu is genuine. Write to her again tomorrow suggesting you guys meet up in 3-4 days time to allow her to get better. Easy.
 

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OnTheWayUp said:
This is a very standard situation. You set a time with a girl, she says she can't make it- the classic excuses are illness and work. Low IL girls will say they can't make it and then not suggest another time, in the hope that you get the hint that they're not interested. Girls with a higher IL and a genuine excuse will say they can't make it, then suggest an alternative time. Why? Because they want to see you!

As this girl suggested you meet up some other time, there is a very good chance that her flu is genuine. Write to her again tomorrow suggesting you guys meet up in 3-4 days time to allow her to get better. Easy.
but she didn't counter offer that's my whole point, it's like a semi counter offer which doesn't mean anything but ask me to offer another time?

if she said 'how's tuesday?' then fine, what she's written seems to indicate me to keep chasing.

i think i'm looking at this at the wrong angle, she's not that interested. so there's no way for me to manipulate her into meeting. just dont act desperate and suggest a time, if she says no again dont contact her again. simple.
 

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Bigweezy, you trying to hard yo! You're trying to act cool, but are coming off desperate with your - I'll squeeze you in for 20 minutes stuff. How would you feel about being squeezed in for 20 minutes or 2 hours, whatever it is? Not everything is a game. And if it is, it is lame.
 

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Johnnyventana said:
Bigweezy, you trying to hard yo! You're trying to act cool, but are coming off desperate with your - I'll squeeze you in for 20 minutes stuff. How would you feel about being squeezed in for 20 minutes or 2 hours, whatever it is? Not everything is a game. And if it is, it is lame.
you're right. i'm trying to act busy but it must be backfiring, it's because i've not got other options and am having difficulty trying to convey that.

i'm not sure what to say tbh, maybe keep it simple and leave it at her to come back with a time.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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big weezy - yup! You got it. A lot of people ruin the "planning part" by dragging it out or being indecisive. It turns "fun" into a chore.

"Let's plan for Thursday at 8. I'll pick you up." Boom, done. In, out!
 

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big weezy said:
but she didn't counter offer that's my whole point, it's like a semi counter offer which doesn't mean anything but ask me to offer another time?

if she said 'how's tuesday?' then fine, what she's written seems to indicate me to keep chasing.

i think i'm looking at this at the wrong angle, she's not that interested. so there's no way for me to manipulate her into meeting. just dont act desperate and suggest a time, if she says no again dont contact her again. simple.
You're really making this much harder for yourself than you need to. If she suggested you meet another time, she IS INTERESTED, even if she didn't specify the precise time. As the man, it's your responsibility to lead and say when you want to meet her. Women almost never suggest dates/ times before you've slept with them, even if they want you bad.
 
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