"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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does she wanna be my girlfriend?

downsickness06

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There's this girl i like that goes to my high school. I have known here for a month or so and we never got really serious. Yesterday she asked me to go to the mall with her and i told her i hate shopping. She said ok and we changed plans to go somewhere else. Later that day we went over to one of her friends' houses and hung out there. There were a couple other of her friends that met us there. We all went into the parents' room and we watched some tv. Eventually the others wanted to go and grab some beer but the girl i like and I stayed. She wanted to play tetris on my phone and she kinda slipped her hand into mine and said to hold her. She said she suddenly felt sick but i think she just wanted to latch on to me. So we kinda cuddled for a bit then she asked me if i wanted to go to the park. We did and later as we got tired we sat on the bench with her friend there and she put her head on my shoulder and i put my arm around her.

All of this stuff happened and i just wanna know if shes wanting me to ask her out. By the way, one of her goofy friends asked her out a couple days ago and she rejected him and told me all about it.

So does this girl want me to be her boyfriend? And was she telling me about her friend who asked her out cause she wants me to do the same thing? Also she kept looking at me all night does she want a kiss from me or what?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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dont ask her out, next time she gets this close to you just go for the kiss. when u ask a girl "will you go out with me" its practically begging her, so just go for a kiss next time and that will be ur answer
 

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Good question Taviii.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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...I don't know what exactly is the obsession with "asking people out."

As far as I can remeber, I never actually asked my current GF "Hey, wanna GO OUT WITH ME?" or "Do you want to be my GIRLFRIEND???":flowers:

It just happened. One thing leads to another...hand holding...hugging...kissing...etc.etc.

Oh, and btw, I think Tavii's question had a hidden meaning: "Are you f*ckin serious you ignoramus?!?!? Of COURSE she wants you to kiss her!"

Just do it.
 

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so the hand holding and cuddling is a definate sign that she wants to go out with me?
 

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Read my post on the other forum - end of.
 

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i was thinkin about asking her out to eat and then moving in for the kiss when i drop her off at her house

good idea?
 

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yes man. good idea. do that, then come back with the details. but do it FAST because she is giving you all the green lights to go for it bro. and good luck :)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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for now she really likes you for whatever reasons
she wants to go out with you
you could've easily kissed her whilst you two were cuddling and she looked deep into your eyes

this was a useless thread you know what she wants, you're just asking for confirmation of the obvious
 

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wow you people. great job replying 20 times to the same thread just to show off your awesome "DJ" skillz. someone reply to my goddam thread
 

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well i just asked her out to dinner for wednesday night cause that is when i get my driving priveleges back. she sounded pretty happy and excited when she said yes.
 

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Good grief man, make a move! she is practically screaming "**** me now!!!" Christ.

Please, read your story to yourself, look at it as if you were someone else. I don't think her interest in you could be anymore obvious.

Make a move and tell us about it, if you don't make a move, give me your address so I can come over and knock your dumb ass out.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Flabbergasped?

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Lol @ downsickness06. She told you to hold her in a bedroom. If that isn't an invitation to make out with her right there, I don't know what is. On the bench, once again, was a chance to make out. Now is dinner. This is your last chance, your third strike. Plz don't ruin this, it seems she's really into you. You don't even have to wait till the end of the night. It's usually a bad idea to wait for the "right moment", since 99% of the time, it won't happen and you'll miss your chance.
 

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her friends were with us in the bedroom and at the park so i didnt want our first kiss to be in front of her friends. But after dinner when we are alone in my car or at the frontstep of her house is when im goin in for the kiss.
 

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downsickness06 said:
i just made a move dumbass
Uhhh you call asking someone out to dinner is making a move?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :crackup:

Excuse me...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :crackup:

By making a move I mean **** her, kiss her, DO SOMETHING PHYSICAL. Come on man read the bible or something. You've had more than enough opportunities to kiss her, if you blow it at dinner I think it is safe to say she will next you

I wish you luck, I think your going to need it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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