"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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does salman rushdie give ugly guys hope?

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The only reason he has Olivia Wilde on his arm is because he's a rich celebrity. If he was a plumber he'd be a virgin.
 

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skinnyguy said:
The only reason he has Olivia Wilde on his arm is because he's a rich celebrity. If he was a plumber he'd be a virgin.
well wait a minute, olivia wilde is rich too and has her own career and fame, she is not some girl from a lower caste who is desperate for money and fame. she could have easily gone out with young stud football player or actor but she chose a fat out of shape old writer. same with his other wives and gf's.
 

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foreverAFC said:
well wait a minute, olivia wilde is rich too and has her own career and fame, she is not some girl from a lower caste who is desperate for money and fame. she could have easily gone out with young stud football player or actor but she chose a fat out of shape old writer. same with his other wives and gf's.
An attractive women with money and fame will go with a ugly guy within fame and money. An attractive women with no money and no fame will not go with an ugly guy with no money/fame.
 

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foreverAFC said:
well wait a minute, olivia wilde is rich too and has her own career and fame, she is not some girl from a lower caste who is desperate for money and fame
Doesn't matter who she is or what she has.

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An attractive women with money and fame will go with a ugly guy within fame and money. An attractive women with no money and no fame will not go with an ugly guy with no money/fame.
s/fame and money/fame, game, or money/

IMO, the order of importance is:

  • power (fame being a manifestation of power)
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  • game
  • looks
  • creativity
  • money
  • intelligence (to an extent)

Of course, it depends on the age, but I think this is the case for 16-25 year old women, which is the best age range.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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so this guy doesnt make any of you feel any better? skinny?
 

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foreverAFC said:
so this guy doesnt make any of you feel any better? skinny?
LOL. If I had his money and fame, I'd be banging 10's on the reg. no he doesn't make me feel better. Average guys play by different rules than celebs.
 

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Ahhh.. It's not the money and the fame.

For those that don't know, Salman Rushdie is one of the most brilliant minds of our lifetimes, and an incredible writer.

Women are attracted to this.
 

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So. Two things.

1. Status
2. Never dated Olivia Wilde. She's actually engaged or married to Jason Sudekis now and preggers.

Speaking of status and Olivia Wilde, before Sudekis she was married to an "Italian prince." Now, get this, when they met - he was living in a hollowed out school bus in LA. And he got her to move into the bus with her!

All this bum had to do was tell her that he was an Italian a Prince, she believed him, and next thing ya know he's got one of the hottest women on the planet living in his hobo cave with him. I think she eventually figured out he may not be a prince.

So if you're looking for guys to give you hope, foreverAFC, look to the hobo who married Olivia Wilde and got her to live in a bus in the desert.
 

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Also, you have to having a fatwa issues against you by none other than the Ayatollah Khomeini has to add to his intrigue and status too. There are not to many people walking the planet that can claim that they pissed some religious fanatics to the point of where they put a contract out on your life. That fact alone has to get a chick moist in the pants.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The thread only mentions his wives, maybe he has lovers on the side too. That is the perks of this position.
 

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IBreatheSpears said:
Doesn't matter who she is or what she has.


s/fame and money/fame, game, or money/

IMO, the order of importance is:

  • power (fame being a manifestation of power)
    .
    .
    .
  • game
  • looks
  • creativity
  • money
  • intelligence (to an extent)

Of course, it depends on the age, but I think this is the case for 16-25 year old women, which is the best age range.
Power .. definitely this is the best thing to have if you want to get laid by the highest value chick
 

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Donjuanpablo said:
Ahhh.. It's not the money and the fame.

For those that don't know, Salman Rushdie is one of the most brilliant minds of our lifetimes, and an incredible writer.

Women are attracted to this.
I have an IQ of 140 and yet I'm not banging Olivia Wilde. Your point?
 

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As the Ayatollah of Rockandrolla, I hereby declare a fatwa on everyone in this thread so you can go out and tell women the Ayatollah declared a fatwa on you. As many knee-jerk pro Arab women as there are out there today who couldn't locate the Gaza Strip on a map, no idea what traction you will get. Let us know!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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skinnyguy said:
I have an IQ of 140 and yet I'm not banging Olivia Wilde. Your point?
Have you written any best sellers with that IQ?

Been knighted?

All nice to have intelligence, it's what you do with it.
 

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In all my years under this 'depression' you would think stories like this were some kind of motivation, but over time I have seen through it.

Socially, a lot of women are still repellant in evaluating a man's looks. They have some pass in being allowed to determine and dictate a man's position in society, possibly combined with his dating position/desirability, because they don't find him attractive.

I don't go around assuming that a 'lonely cat lady' will stay like that all the time.

They do have the last say.

It got to the point where my parent/s were having to assist me in introducing me to any person because they sensed my indecisiveness and lack of confidence, which also resulted in self-harm. How bad is that?
 
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