Does picking up women make you hated?

[Steel131]

I've been a lurker of this site for a while and over the last year and half or so I have started to apply the knowledge I have gathered from this site. I've had success before in the past but not as much as I'd like because I tend to be pretty quiet. When and if I do talk to girls I like I normally have success.

While I still wouldn't call myself a master dj or anything close, I have noticed some minor success with women and I am definately becoming more assertive. The following is what led me to make this post; Many of my friends (and some of my best friends) aren't really good with women and don't do anything to improve their situation. If they see a girl they like they usaully don't do anything about and just talk about it from afar. I have tried very hard and suggested many times that we should all go out and approach women with the intention to improve our skills. No competition or anything, just improvement.

Since I have started to have success, I've noticed my friends have become increasingly weird. It's like they hate me now for some reason. I go periods without hearing from them and already on two occasions I've asked if something is up or wrong. They say no, but clearly there is. They flake out on me now last minute when I make plans to hang out as well. I don't know why they do this but I think it has to do with the fact I've become better with girls. The thought of it pisses me off because I've busted my ass and put in the effort. They could put in the same amount of time and become better themselves. And as I mentioned above I have suggested going out in groups to pratice so it wouldn't be as hard/embarresing, but they are more comfortable *****ing and complaining about how they have nothing and other people who do have success.

Anyway, does this happen and why does it happen when someone begins going down the path to DJ-hood?

 

[Obsidian]

Read Plato's The Cave and you will understand the problem. Just ditch your loser friends and find better ones who won't f*ck you over. Life's too short to waste time on people who don't treat you right.

 

[Steel131]

I have known these guys since highschool. We were part of the same social circle so there is a lot of history. I used to encourage them and they encouraged me, but once I started getting results it seems as if they changed.

One I had known longer then the others. He was my best friend. I was telling him about a girl I was chasing who had interest. Out of nowhere he got all pissed and was like "it's obvious she likes you, you idiot". I could not believe this coming from my own best friend. I looked at him pretty severely and he then appologized, but that was the final straw.

I am/have cut them out of my life because I can't count on them anymore. They are negative and just bring me down (Now that I think of it, there have been times when they mentioned x was out of my league and I should forget about it). Plus they also probably talk bad about me, but I know the won't do it to my face. It is saddening in a way considering all I have done for them and they were ungrateful in the end. And it's all because I am putting time into women and getting something out of it when they COULD do the same and maybe even do better than me, which I wouldn't give a ****. Some guy screwing some chick does nothing for me unless I AM that guy.

 

[jmm854]

Jealousy's an ugly stench.. but handle yourself right and you'll prosper anyway.

Because deep down, everyone loves a Don.

 

[War Against Betaism]

Yeah, one of my friends in particular tried indirectly causing drama between me and this girl that I was seeing. Even though she couldn't see it, I could. I've also noticed that in my group of friends, there seems to be split relationships between all of us. The relationship where we're all friends, and the sex relationship where we're all competing against each other to become the best DJ. I'm a bros before hoes but sometimes I pick hoes first just to make them envious because of something women related they would do to me in the past.

 

[reset]

Your friends want to keep you on their level. If you're changing and they aren't, they're going to start trying to bring you down because the thought of them breaking out of their comfort zone is very scary and now every time they hang with you they have to think "oh crap I don't have to be like this I can change" and they fear that. You're challenging their reality.

 

[Evolution]

Many of my friends (and some of my best friends) aren't really good with women and don't do anything to improve their situation. If they see a girl they like they usaully don't do anything about and just talk about it from afar.

Your friends are AFC's, but you cannot blame them for lack of success with women. Society has made them that way, its not their fault.

I have tried very hard and suggested many times that we should all go out and approach women with the intention to improve our skills. No competition or anything, just improvement.

No matter how much or how hard you try. You cannot help someone who doesn't want it. It will always be a uphill battle, and in the end you will just end up frustrated.

I know you have good intentions and you want to help them. But let them be, they will find their own way. It will save both of you a lot of grief.

Since I have started to have success, I've noticed my friends have become increasingly weird. It's like they hate me now for some reason.

This is because you have outgrown your friends. And its okay, its happened to many people who decide to go on the DJ journey.

Personally for me, a lot of old friends were like that too. But when you get good with women, and become a better person overall.

Very high-quality people will come into your social circle. And they will not hate you for being good with women. But instead they will respect you.

The thought of it pisses me off because I've busted my ass and put in the effort. They could put in the same amount of time and become better themselves. And as I mentioned above I have suggested going out in groups to pratice so it wouldn't be as hard/embarresing, but they are more comfortable *****ing and complaining about how they have nothing and other people who do have success.

Your are only responsible for yourself. Forget them, and stop comparing them to yourself. They will find their own way.

Despite your good intentions, you cannot help those who do not want to be helped. Its always an uphill battle. Not worth it in the long run.

Focus on improving yourself. Always.

Anyway, does this happen and why does it happen when someone begins going down the path to DJ-hood?

The DJ-journey isn't just simply getting good with women. Its about changing your entire life. Being a better person in your career, relationships, etc. etc. etc.

But unfortunately, losing your old friends is part of the journey. You have outgrown them.


Question is.. will you try please your friends? Or will you do this for yourself?

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Your friends are player haters. Plain and simple.

 

[LostAndConfused]

I really don't mean to offend you by saying this, but your "friends" never became that way because they like you for who you are. As with almost ALL people in high school, they became friends with you because you are like them or are in a similar situation to them. Thats how all those pathetic cliques form. So when you moved out of that AFC-trap and became a DJ, you lost that connection because you aren't like them anymore.

 

[Steel131]

I have already severed ties with them. I am not looking to resume contact and don't plan to because they are disrespectful and ungrateful. I have offered to help them out one too many times and they just spit in my face. You know, I have actually passed up opportunties before with some women, an HB7 in particular because one of these clowns liked her.Thinking it would be best I layed off her and told him I'd lead him into a convo with her. Of course it backfired on both fronts, he didn't have the guts to talk to her when she was around and I said I'd hook him up (yet stayed infatuated for over 2 years!)and in the end she ended up disliking me, I'm guessing because I never ended up progressing things and blew my chance with her (I am pretty sure she would've gone out with me had I asked).

L&C, I'm not a DJ yet haha. I'm not offended, I didn't like most of them when I first met them. I met them through my best friend and eventually I became identified with them. I honestly think if anything it brought me down, because I was much more respected prior to having hung with them. They were those loud and immature type. But anyway, I digress. The fact I have decided to deviate from what was expected is probably what did it. I have no regrets cause honestly they are negative and just ***** without doing anything about it. I think I probably would've been better off had I never met them, but you can't change what's already been done.

 

[Vice]

I'm also having a similar problem. One of my friends tries to AMOG me ALL THE TIME now, so I've stopped hanging out with him altogether, and ignoring him.

Thing is, I have a bit of trouble making friends. Guy friends. But I realized that making guy friends is easier than making friends with girls, so I'd better go for it.

 

[pr3d3]

I don't know what's happening in the US but here in Romania all the teenagers separate in about 5 groups . Depending on the image they want to show to the rest ,they dress in the style which belongs to the type of music they listen to they are : Rocker, emo, houser ,raper and "manelist" (the most stupid music u ever heared , it is very popular here because of the stupidity of the population , many intelectuals call it "phonic pollution") . Anyway since i started going on the DJ way i can feel that some of my best friends(which i know since school ) are being a little colder now and then . They like listening to rock music so they rarely go clubbing and aren't very social (AFCs to the bone) . I told them about the site and showed them that talking to girls isn't a big thing , but they said that: "I think that lieing to yourself / lieing to someone isn't the way to go , women should love you for what you are , all the convo should work naturaly ." To some extent i know he is right , but i know this dude i know is a total AFC because his realy shy and sometimes can be very borring , but his my friend and alltough i changed and will change more in the future i hope that someday he will open his eyes and realise that some changes should be done in his life.