Does NLP enhance lifestyle? is it better for seduction?

[Canadien]

Ok, so I've been studying NLP for some time now, and its just starting to make an impact as I start to recognize the link between Seduction and social dynamics, yet I don't see much discussion about this topic on this board, especially considering Donjuan's primary focus is on himself, and self growth, and from what I've read I have come to a conclusion that NLP is way bigger then any seduction method out there.

NLP puts everything in clear perspective, and its much better then any PUA guru's define the game or the system, so how widespread is NLP in PUA, SS, Donjuan, RSD and other communities?

 

[Alphamale1821]

what is NLP?

 

[MacAvoy]

I agree with you Canadien. I was first introduced to Neuro Linguistic Programming from this site and I've used it on a few occassions when I've needed to channel my mind to overcome something. I also considered taking a practicioners course but don't think its widely accepted enough to make it profitable enough for me to pursue financially (but I agree that the personal rewards would be worth it).

I'm with you in I don't understand why it isn't a more utilized tool in the DJ world.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...I'm with you in I don't understand why it isn't a more utilized tool in the DJ world.

It is but not in the way intended by the social sciences. One of the "original gurus" uses it extensively with questionable success.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

what is NLP?

http://www.nlpacademy.co.uk/WhatisNLP.asp

 

[ready123]

I've been rereading a lot of NLP basics since the last thread that was posted about it on this board. I've come to realize how deep rooted NLP is in every facet of life, regardless of our awareness of them. In particular submodalities and representational systems.

It's pretty eye-opening

 

[KontrollerX]

Its helped me but officially NLP has been ruled untestable by scientists and has been largely abandoned by the serious research community as a result.

So basically its one of those things you have to try for yourself to see if you can get anything out of it.

 

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

Besides its uses for self-improvement, don't some guys like Ross Jeffries claim it can be used on women as a form of mind-control? Has anyone used it in that way and had any success?

 

[saber]

lol mind control is just the word I would use....

i gave a presentation for school about nlp and cia mind control experiments which was super interesting for dorks like me

the nlp skills I learned are pretty numerous and go hand in hand with stuff from the dj bible

compared to how I used to understand other people it feels like I can almost read their mind and then coax a reaction out of them...lol....the thing that sux is some people can do this naturally

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Besides its uses for self-improvement, don't some guys like Ross Jeffries claim it can be used on women as a form of mind-control? Has anyone used it in that way and had any success?

Why don't you give it a try and let us know what happens.

 

[MacAvoy]

I concur with the mind control analogy. Control of your own mind is where I find it most powerful. I don't know it near enough to even attempt to use it externally.

 

[LonesomeLoser]

So in theory this can be used to force a woman to do what you want, without her knowing that you're doing it? I mean, with her thinking that its her idea? What if I'm okay with being a complete fvck up in every other area of my life, as long as I can get women (especially a woman I have oneitis for) to want me sexually? My attractiveness to women (and this one woman in particular) or lack thereof is a particular source of insecurity for me. So if I could force her to want me, I don't think I'd care about any of the self-improvement stuff at all. Well I mean, I don't care about it anyway. But getting my oneitis to find me hot is the only thing that could MAYBE motivate me to improve myself (and that's a big maybe). So if I could use this mind-control route instead, a lot less effort for me. So, your contempt for my complete lack of interest in being a "real man" aside, is this doable?

 

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

So in theory this can be used to force a woman to do what you want, without her knowing that you're doing it? I mean, with her thinking that its her idea? What if I'm okay with being a complete fvck up in every other area of my life, as long as I can get women (especially a woman I have oneitis for) to want me sexually? My attractiveness to women (and this one woman in particular) or lack thereof is a particular source of insecurity for me. So if I could force her to want me, I don't think I'd care about any of the self-improvement stuff at all. Well I mean, I don't care about it anyway. But getting my oneitis to find me hot is the only thing that could MAYBE motivate me to improve myself (and that's a big maybe). So if I could use this mind-control route instead, a lot less effort for me. So, your contempt for my complete lack of interest in being a "real man" aside, is this doable?

Sorry to bump this so late, but if you can get past the way he frames it, it is a fair question isn't it, considering the way guys like Ross Jeffries talk up the SS stuff?

 

[Social_disturbance]

I wish it weren't true because I really wanted NLP to work, but in real life, real life interactions and real life approaches are really the best way you can go.

 

[mrRuckus]

I concur with the mind control analogy. Control of your own mind is where I find it most powerful. I don't know it near enough to even attempt to use it externally.

I'm reading a book on it now. I never even knew you could use it externally really so i never thought to use it 'against' girls.

I've read about 2 chapters of the book, and it teaches some 'exercises' and one situation that happened when i was 15 that always made me feel stupid every time i thought about it i no longer care about after i applied some NLP stuff to the situation.

 

[eatgel]

NLP HELPS YOU IN ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR LIFE! Everythin got better literally, better persuasion skillz, more feelin and confidency into the convo's and lil bit of everythin ya feel ? learn about it as much as possible very helpful and fun 2 learn to !

 

[Canadian Catnip]

I would like to put in my two cents on this NLP topic. I have been studying NLP for about 6 months now.

It's hard to say if NLP really works because I believe most people that study or read about NLP actually are looking to change their life anyway. The question that always bugged me was. did I change because I used NLP, or did I change because I had a desire to change and probably would have, even if I never heard of NLP?

I believe NLP is a great way to work on your inner game or your internal frame. I find that if I start to listen to my inner thoughts I can see them for what they are. Many of my ideas are simply preprogrammed ideas that trigger off over and over again whenever I get into a similar situation.

NLP seems to say that it doesn't matter where, how or when you picked up these thoughts. What matters is that you change your thinking so you stop acting like you used to.

I find some of the practices of NLP close to the practice of self observation. Once we observe what our mind is doing we have a chance of changing it. It also reminds me of "fake it till you make it".

Our minds are incredible machines and unfortunately are prone to believe anything we put into them. Most peoples minds are poorly programmed and most people don't know how to change their thinking or are even aware that they can or should change. Some people called this "Being Asleep".

Inner game is the most important thing you can work on. Someone once told me that we are like a projector. We are looking at the images being projected and complaining about the movie we are seeing when in fact we are the projectors and the movie is our thoughts and beliefs that we PROJECT onto others.

I have seen amazing results for myself simply from changing my thinking. It takes time but if you are willing to put every effort into changing, then you will change.

 

[LonesomeLoser]

Come on, I asked if I'm not concerned about "inner game", or improving myself in any way, and am perfectly happy being a loser who has nothing in reality to offer a woman, can I use NLP to control women and make them want me against their will? Yes or no?

 

[Canadian Catnip]

Come on, I asked if I'm not concerned about "inner game", or improving myself in any way, and am perfectly happy being a loser who has nothing in reality to offer a woman, can I use NLP to control women and make them want me against their will? Yes or no?

You can't control anyone.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I wish it weren't true because I really wanted NLP to work, but in real life, real life interactions and real life approaches are really the best way you can go.

Real life is exactly where NLP works. You must be doing something wrong.