Does it pay off to make women feel guilty?

[Who Dares Win]

We often talk about the best frame to be the one where you lead and keep a good degree of dominance toward her however Im trying to consider to deploy an improved beta tactic which is the one of making them feel guilty.

Unlike the beta way which has the final result of having her "do something for you" through some kind of shaming, In my case Im aiming to making her feel certain emotions instead of a disturbance which needs a certain action to be removed and most of all my actions comes from a better position than a beta.

Let me make an example:

Beta: "after all I did to you in class you didnt even come to dinner with me"

Silver tongued bastard: "it could have been one of the most fulfilling moment of our life even if for such a short time, its such a sad thing that it didnt happen"


You see the difference, in the first case he is trying to shame her into doing something for him, his message is like "if you dont dine me you're a b1tch" while in the second case Im not asking anything just suggesting positive/negative mixed emotions (good memories and sadness) togheter.

Also in the second case there's no shaming, bashing or any other bvtthurt sign, in fact the guilt if far from her but on destiny.
I believe this would make her hamester spin in the right direction if played good.

What is your opinion?

ps. Ignore the title and read "regret" instead of guilt.

 

[Dali_tx_o]

Delivered with a ****y smile, this might work, but so could "Oh yeah, you forgot to come to dinner - well, I guess you just blew it, better luck next time!".

However, I think a much better approach is to be not phased at all, and potentially take another girl for dinner or whatever. By bringing this issue up, you show her that you care and that this phased you somewhat. As many have written before, you want to communicate covertly, not overtly - that's the way women work.

A man with options does not care about some girl not coming for dinner. A man who is a catch has plenty of girls who want to go on dinner, walks, or even bare-knuckle pig-hunting with him, because that's what he is - a catch. Women want to spend time with him.
And the best way to make a girl think twice about flaking, and instill regret, is exactly that - by not being phased at all, by acting like someone who has more options (you don't? make options). It's an covert way of saying "Well, I gave you a chance and invited you over to have a special moment with me, shame you missed it, that's your loss!". Only, since you don't put it verbally, she will think that she came to that conclusion herself. She will regret missing out on a chance to go for a dinner with you.

And don't try to reschedule, don't try to arrange another date - let the thought that she is the one who missed out, that you don't really need her - let it settle in her head. As Pook, I believe, wrote, that the greatest fear of women is missing out on the catch. So when she starts hinting at maybe another dinner, you smile and change the subject. Because you are the great catch, and because you might consider giving her a second chance, but only if she proves worthy of it.

 

[drift king]

this is similar to problems i've had.. i dont really know how to make her feel like she's 'missed' out.. without verbally saying it.

would your actions really show this? i.e. giving short one word answers, acting disinterested when previously you had high interest.

 

[self-respect]

this is similar to problems i've had.. i dont really know how to make her feel like she's 'missed' out.. without verbally saying it.

would your actions really show this? i.e. giving short one word answers, acting disinterested when previously you had high interest.

Not worry about it and move on for real? If she HAS missed out on your awesome life, she'll see it. Chicks overanalyze everything and they HATE missing out on the big catch. They see potential in guys down the line. So don't worry about showing her, if you're turned off by her rejection then look elsewhere. There's hot pu$$y all around.