"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Does it matter what she says at all?

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Hey everyone, thanks for hearing this situation out and providing some of your thoughts.

Seen this girl 5 times, 1 was an informal date (just her and me doing date stuff but without discussion about the label), and the others I spent the night at her place (no sex, but plenty of play and bj).

The 1st and 5th time (3rd that I spent the night), she made it a point to comment on how many guys had slept in her bed. She and I have not had any conversations about a relationship, and when she thought that it was where the conversation was heading on the 5th time, she was like "we're not having that conversation yet, are we? I mean we can..." and at that point I was like no no no that's not what we're doing right now.

She smoked cigs when we first met. Once she found out that I hate cigs (2nd time I saw her), she has only smoked once in front of me, and only finished part of it. She has started working out regularly (she was already hot to begin with), and is quitting smoking entirely. She doesn't have any apparent emotional problems, is well educated, is down to earth, is mature, and most of all... IS FUN.

So my confusion lies in her desire to invite me to sleep over, to go on a quasi-date, to make plans to do fun things in the future, and then to tell me that she lets a lot of guys sleep in her bed...

Do you think she's just trying to avoid appearing vulnerable to me? Or do you think she is trying to send me subtle signals that she wants to keep things casual?

On a somewhat unrelated note, I think I need a 2nd or 3rd interest to take my mind off of this girl a little, because her words are indicating that I'm not the only guy she's hanging around.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Seen this girl 5 times, 1 was an informal date (just her and me doing date stuff but without discussion about the label), and the others I spent the night at her place (no sex, but plenty of play and bj).
Nice!

The 1st and 5th time (3rd that I spent the night), she made it a point to comment on how many guys had slept in her bed.
Shes a hoe. And this is a redflag because a girl who was interested you for a relationship would not volunteer this information unless she was a complete social retard.

So my confusion lies in her desire to invite me to sleep over, to go on a quasi-date, to make plans to do fun things in the future, and then to tell me that she lets a lot of guys sleep in her bed
She thinks something about you is hot, but she is not interested in a relationship and would like you as her human dildo.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think I need a 2nd or 3rd interest to take my mind off of this girl a little, because her words are indicating that I'm not the only guy she's hanging around.
Shes a hoe!! Either use her as a FWB or quit her.

Don't engage in unprotected sex with this chick.
 

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Guess I should have mentioned this in the first post... she got out of an LTR about 5-6 months ago (2 years relationship).
 

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What the ****?

She comes over with her 2 male roommates to have dinner with me and my roommate (my roommate was having a Thai cooking night). She barely hugs me hello, sits across from me at a 5-chair rectangular table, barely talks to me, and compliments my roommate the whole time (he liked her big time before he gave up which is when I moved in).

Then when leaving she gives me a one-armed hug! I was so pissed but I restrained myself and didn't text or call her at all. I was ready to next her in a bad way. Then she texts me after roughly the time it takes for her and her roommates to get home with this message: "couldn't figure out a way to sneak a smooch w/ everyone around"

I didn't reply

She sent a duplicate of the message, presumably by accident while reviewing what she had already written.

I didn't reply.

She sent another text about 5 minutes after that saying, "Sorry if that was too forward."

WTF is with this trick? Can someone back me up that she seems incredibly insecure? Is it as simple as that, or is this characteristic of a woman trying to use a guy as a mobile dildo?

If she only wanted what was in my pants, then why would she volunteer an apology before she even knows that I did or didn't see the text??

I still haven't replied but I keep thinking about it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Sent her a text back

"ouch my virgin eyes you typed the s word that rhymes with pooch! Np there wasn't a good time"

What a chump move that was in retrospect, although I did wait an hour before getting back to her.
 

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Anyone have an opinion on this? Anyone disagree with what was already said?

It should be noted that my roommate was going after her for a while, and for that reason she might've felt very uncomfortable showing me any affection in front of him.
 

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Very simple solution my son.

Do you like her? What do you want to get out of spending time with her? Friends w/Benefits? A relationship? You need to figure out what you want with her. The problem is not with her. I repeat, THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR DOUBTS ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP IS NOT WITH HER.

It is 100% with you. If you do not know what you want with her, how can you expect her to act accordingly?

Figure out what you want, then act accordingly.
 
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