does holding a strong frame mean never losing a woman?

[Desdinova]

I strongly subscribe to high score theory. A woman will have one, possibly two men at the top of her list of men. These men get in early in her dating life, rock her emotionally, and remain at the top for the rest of her life. She will always return to him when the opportunity arises, and she will always place him above any men who attempt to follow in his footsteps.

You need to be that guy. Good morals, low maintenance, and looks are all bonuses. You need to be at the top of her list in order for her to remain with you. If some other guy has scored more points than you, then you are disposable. Women like that are throwaways. To give you an idea of the dating landscape, most women over the age of 23 are throwaways because their ideal man has already penetrated her emotionally.

 

[ubercat]

High score theory seems to explain a lot of behaviour by Western woman. However there must be a large cultural component. I've dated a number of Asian women in their 30s and 40s some of whom had EXes with management jobs in the government. Normally having a government job in Asia means that you are well connected and have some power.

Overall the main thing that impressed me with these girls is that they know how to work as a team with a man and don't seem to have lost their stickiness.

 

[Desdinova]

Overall the main thing that impressed me with these girls is that they know how to work as a team with a man and don't seem to have lost their stickiness.

I've been thinking about that as of late. I don't necessarily think that HST is absent from these women, but I think that their ingrained morals and/or religious beliefs may cause them enough powerful emotions to keep them faithful. It's likely that they still have feelings for their exes, but their belief system won't allow them to act upon those feelings.

I still think you're going to have better results from penetrating *any* woman's emotions earlier in life regardless of which country they come from.

 

[G_Govan]

Throughout our relationship I would call her out on this kind of stuff, but I really let her have it after the divorce comment and afterwards she went cold on me which eventually led to the breakup.

Your reaction was more insecurity than frame holding.

She picked up on this over time and bailed.

Any woman who expresses this kind of feminist sentiment gets ignored by me. Meaning I'll disagree (if I care enough to) and change the subject. I find it silly and if she gets all emotional over it I make it a point to avoid these kinds of topics. It really depends on how hard she pushes it. If she's relentless I'll just end it.

Don't take things like this so seriously, brush it off like a gnat swarming your head. I tend to stay away from heavy topics like politics/religion unless the person I'm having the discussion with is even tempered and interested in hearing opposing view points.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Your reaction was more insecurity than frame holding.

She picked up on this over time and bailed.

Any woman who expresses this kind of feminist sentiment gets ignored by me. Meaning I'll disagree (if I care enough to) and change the subject. I find it silly and if she gets all emotional over it I make it a point to avoid these kinds of topics. It really depends on how hard she pushes it. If she's relentless I'll just end it.

Don't take things like this so seriously, brush it off like a gnat swarming your head. I tend to stay away from heavy topics like politics/religion unless the person I'm having the discussion with is even tempered and interested in hearing opposing view points.

Good comment. In bold is pretty much what happened. Initially I would brush it off and not think twice about it in terms of actually telling her I didn't like those types of comments. However, as the relationship progressed, I made the mistake of thinking an attractive mid 20's woman in NYC gave two sh*ts about long term commitment by opening myself up and telling her those comments made me uncomfortable. I mean god forbid I break my 'alpha' frame for 5 seconds in pursuit of a deeper, meaningful relationship with a member of the opposite sex.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Frame for me means knowing what you want and if the women in your life won't accept that then they should know that their staying or leaving does not change your values.