"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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Does every girl insist on talking about past relationships??

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This is a rant but as well i would like some advice and opinions on this

First of all do all girls really have to bring up their ex? i mean it really kills the mood or anything i have to say whenever a girl talks about her ex. I really dont want to hear anything at all about your stupid loser ex boyfriend with the ****ty job who you bought everything. I really dont ****ing care and when a girl talks about her ex I just want to stop talking to them It reallly really just puts me off. Can anyone tell me the reason why. I asked this girl about her past jobs and she brings up that she wanted to move in with her ex and how she bought him everything, i seriously wasnt expecting such a detailed response and it really just killed the convo. how can I deal with this? because it has happened a couple of times to me. i dont know how to really deal with it.
 

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you are taking the completely wrong approach to this. You WANT a girl to talk about her past relationships. This gives you some extremely useful information of what to expect from her. Of course, the info is highly filtered, but you'd be surprised the kind of shyt a girl will admit to (eg lying, cheating, a 3some with her cousin and his friend...).

By putting your head in the sand and refusing to hear anything about her exes, you re doing yourself 2 big disfavors:
- first you lose a valuable source of info about your girl
- you expose yourself as insecure to the point where you don't even have the balls to hear about some other dude your girl's been with in the past
 

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dmatter said:
This is a rant but as well i would like some advice and opinions on this

First of all do all girls really have to bring up their ex? i mean it really kills the mood or anything i have to say whenever a girl talks about her ex. I really dont want to hear anything at all about your stupid loser ex boyfriend with the ****ty job who you bought everything. I really dont ****ing care and when a girl talks about her ex I just want to stop talking to them It reallly really just puts me off. Can anyone tell me the reason why.

Because you are not entertaining her enough for her not to bring up her ex. If she was having so much fun with you, talking to you, learning something from you, or getting the best sex from you ever, she would not have time to be even thinking about her ex. The fact that she is means you are not keeping her emotionally occupied, you are getting boring for her.

I asked this girl about her past jobs and she brings up that she wanted to move in with her ex and how she bought him everything, i seriously wasnt expecting such a detailed response and it really just killed the convo. how can I deal with this? because it has happened a couple of times to me. i dont know how to really deal with it.
You shouldn't "deal with it", you should be pro-active to make sure it doesn't happen. You shouldn't be asking a girl about past jobs, you should be asking her if she dances salsa because you know the owner of a club. Guaranteed she wouldn't bring up her ex then.

It all depends how SMART you are in handling it.
 
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My most recent girl on the first date told me attacked her ex with a bottle.

First date she also told me about guys she f-cked and one guy I know and he is a scumbag. She said it was a mistake because she was "drunk". By the third date I knew she had been in threesomes, 2 guys and a girl and 2 girls and a guy. I NEVER once mentioned a past relationship to this day.

I think she's ho.

She also put out on the first date. I was still seeing her as of last week and I actually started to get attached to her but I know it is bad news and it has to be ended.

I think I may have ended it tonight because I called her out on being a ho. As soon as I called her out she denied it and ended the convo saying she has to go to bed. Before I called her out, last week she admitted she has been ****ing other dudes since we met.
 
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drak_ool said:
you are taking the completely wrong approach to this. You WANT a girl to talk about her past relationships. This gives you some extremely useful information of what to expect from her. Of course, the info is highly filtered, but you'd be surprised the kind of shyt a girl will admit to (eg lying, cheating, a 3some with her cousin and his friend...).

By putting your head in the sand and refusing to hear anything about her exes, you re doing yourself 2 big disfavors:
- first you lose a valuable source of info about your girl
- you expose yourself as insecure to the point where you don't even have the balls to hear about some other dude your girl's been with in the past

This is 100% correct.. knowing her past relationship info is VITAL to saving pain down the road.... pain when she cheats. And you can never get back time.

I just can't deal with a girl with a shady / slutty relationship past. Because I'll always be wondering who's d!ck she is riding on when I'm not around. And she is the one who wants a real relationship after telling me all this crap?

Do they even realize the info they tell will make a good, smart man next them right away?

I guess women are used to chumps who will look past all that if she spreads her legs. That crap isnt enough for me anymore.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You shouldn't "deal with it", you should be pro-active to make sure it doesn't happen. You shouldn't be asking a girl about past jobs, you should be asking her if she dances salsa because you know the owner of a club. Guaranteed she wouldn't bring up her ex then.

It all depends how SMART you are in handling it.

your absolutleyyy right I mean if she was having the time of her life she wouldnt even bring him up. But this was over the phone, but again your right i shouldnt be asking stupid questions i should be telling exciting stories or talking about entertaining things. thanks donjuan i knew what i have to do but it helps when someone else tells you as well to get your mind straight.

but my next question with this girl is that me and her have been kissing and hanging out and tons of kino and i have grabbed and carressed her private parts. but the point is people at work have noticed this and she told me that they ask her if shes dating anyone and she says no im not dating anyone. i dont know what to say to that because even though we are not official i know that she likes me and always wants to hang out with me and talk to me so i figured shed at least consider us dating. i mean i dont know what i am to her or where me and her are going and i would like to know should i ask??
 
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dmatter said:
your absolutleyyy right I mean if she was having the time of her life she wouldnt even bring him up. But this was over the phone, but again your right i shouldnt be asking stupid questions i should be telling exciting stories or talking about entertaining things. thanks donjuan i knew what i have to do but it helps when someone else tells you as well to get your mind straight.

but my next question with this girl is that me and her have been kissing and hanging out and tons of kino and i have grabbed and carressed her private parts. but the point is people at work have noticed this and she told me that they ask her if shes dating anyone and she says no im not dating anyone. i dont know what to say to that because even though we are not official i know that she likes me and always wants to hang out with me and talk to me so i figured shed at least consider us dating. i mean i dont know what i am to her or where me and her are going and i would like to know should i ask??

Its not a big deal in the beginning. Sure, just blow off her past and then bang her. It's later down the road it will start bugging you if the relationship progresses to something more than sex. When you start to like her and consider a relationship with her is when you start going mad and paranoid what she is doing behind your back.

The whole point I'm trying to say is that if her past is so shady with orgies and threesomes and cheating, it really will drive you mad eventually so you have to get rid of her early.
 

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dmatter said:
they ask her if shes dating anyone and she says no im not dating anyone. i dont know what to say to that because even though we are not official
how old are you? if you are not official with a girl, of course she won't be going around saying that you 2 are dating, actually I would be worried about that kind of girl...
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
This is 100% correct.. knowing her past relationship info is VITAL to saving pain down the road.... pain when she cheats. And you can never get back time.

I just can't deal with a girl with a shady / slutty relationship past. Because I'll always be wondering who's d!ck she is riding on when I'm not around. And she is the one who wants a real relationship after telling me all this crap?

Do they even realize the info they tell will make a good, smart man next them right away?

I guess women are used to chumps who will look past all that if she spreads her legs. That crap isnt enough for me anymore.
Exactly, a lot of times it's not that hard to determine what kind of woman you are dealing with. She leaves flags and clues if you keep your eyes open and look at it objectively.
 
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