Does divorce really mean loss of half your assets?

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Ditto. I'm doing great with an asian chick and they have a societal imperitive to not be divorced - divorce is a huge shame on a woman = much more security. Not impossible though.

I look at my friends with their rich and successful western women and see them tiptoeing around their views, opinions and basically neutering themselves.

I feel much more of an "we're in this together" spirit from my asian GF. We basically are a team working to move forward in life together.

Of course, you get all the usual wamen shyt - tests, moodyness, all that shyt. You don't get the power game as much. They seem much less angry and judgemental and more, dare I say, like a man. More pragmatic, family minded.

I would recommend any young man find love abroad.

Look at the way western men are these days - roiding up, spending their entire lives with "game" and all that bollocks. You don't need this kind of game with a lot of foreign chicks - be a decent solid guy, devote to them, look after them, be the old school man, and you're there. The traits western women love tend to not be what attracts these girls - quite the opposite. Of course, they are still women and I'm sure they are just as vulnerable in some ways, but they don't set out for d1ckhead tattood idiots and want someone with a brain and a good job, which is good for me!

It depends.

Yes, the Asian community is doing well as a whole but if you take third or forth Gen it's basically the same old white girl wasted sex tapes and diva behavior.

In China, 25+ is left over women. In the west, the promo is 30+ booty call then seek marriage as baby rabies kicks off.

In terms of aesthetics usually they age well. Still, marriage is retarded these days and even more so the men who do so. Exceptions are top form smv, early side of 20, and makes bank.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Of course, I'd say 2nd gen in west is the same as any other western girl.

However, I disagree with most of this threads view of marriage based on UK law.

The assumption in UK law is that both parties can work after marriage, so it's not always 50/50. What makes the difference is KIDS.

If you have kids, even if unmarried, you are copping a big monthly payment, pretty much forever. I was divorced and much more wealthy than my ex, but I didn't owe hardly anything and I kept a lot of my assets - I gave her perhaps 20% to help her on her way, which I was happy enough with.

I'm going to have to hitch my asian girl if we go forward. Residency issues. However, I'm willing to take the risk - life is risk and I want a family, and I would rather risk marriage + kids with a traditional non-western asian woman than kids+no marriage with a western girl. Period.

I'm a bit different to a lot on here- I want somewhat of a blue pill outcome.

I know at least 5 asian/UK couples who married their asian girls and not one are divorced. We don't know a single example of this scenario resulting in divorce.

The idea of the asian girl absconding once visa is confirmed I believe is a stereotype pushed by blue-pill men who are jealous because they have a fat feminist, and the feminist themselves who see a massive threat.

I'm American and our laws are just as every bit as savage. I would argue more so but I digress.

Men need to EVOLVE. Women have, that being skiing down cawk mountain, riding the carousel, running through bad boys/Chad's, playboy, and when smv has cratered, it is victimhood time. It's good girl shtick. It's baby rabies. It is her last attempt at salvation and make resources are extracted either by 1. Marriage/common law 2. Baby mamma drama whereby she can unleash the dogs of the state, evict man from his home, make up false abuse allegations etc.

It's over gentlemen. Women have showed their true nature. Cucks seek out the NAWALT unicorn. Even if it exists, the probability is so low, and the risk out weighs any such chance.

Asian culture is respectful. Even there, it is changing. I rate the women higher assuming first Gen and traditional. It recently next 2 Asian girls both of whom were your classic white girl wasted space cadet. One on the early side of 20 and the other mid 20s. Both were half way retarded.

See, I am not divorced. I won't marry or common law living. I don't date cratered smv, single moms or women on the later side of 20. I will Netflix and chill. It's called practice.

No raw dawg warrior. I pull the chute the sec I see crazy or baby rabies. Feminism, sjw, combative women need not apply. I wouldn't be giving 20%. The state would be seeking blood money.

I got red pilled by my old man's friend who dated a single mom and lost his million dollar beach house and biz. He said, it would have been cheaper to hire a hit man. True story.


I hear you man. I have evolved. At my core, I suppose I do too but, it's out of my hands. I will do my part. Leave the rest to God/universe /being etc. After 7yrs of pickup, I've met awesome women. I can say 99% are Netflix and chill material. Lulz at marriage. Not happening.

Date on early dude of 20, top form smv or Netflix and chill. In China, 25+ is called left over women. It's a promo to get married women after killing women. Women and feminism has them brain washed too. Here 30+ and women be divas. Don't need a man. Can do what she wants. Chad's booty call until the phone stops ringing.

Little does she kniw, new girls are turning 18 everyday.

Come @ me bro

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

When you're 35, netflix and chill is a ridiculous premise.

By what metric? analytics? By society's standards?

IMHO, male top form smv (while very individual) I would say is at about 35+ give or take. Much much younger for women given their predisposition to bulking and inability to put down the fork.

Let's take this further now. Are most guys checking out their options at 35+ when on top form? When they look masculine, been around the block, banged bitches, got resources, lifestyle, **** handled, etc. Not their first rodeo. Most guys have been roped up by Chad's booty call, cratered smv, and single mother victim hood.

So, when on top form, it's running through playboys, Chad's, and full blown skiing down cawk mountain cratering top form smv. It's when she's fallen from grace, when Chad's stop calling she ropes in the man before he hits top form.


Son, you ain't doing it right. 35+ and I want top form smv, I am talking 18-23. Everything but is Netflix and chill. Not in the mood is grounds for dismissal.


If you're going the DJ route, you might want to step your game up, unplug from the 'everyone is equal,' girl power narrative, and actually go get 1. A life and 2. Get baes!

I know a playboy early 40s smashing sluts on the early side of 20. Demonizing men for dating youth is a piss poor attempt to control masculinity.

I swear, you guys make it easy for the rest of us. You can raise Chad's baby. Meanwhile, new girls are turning 18 everyday.

Come @me bro!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Do you think every man measures his success in life by relentlessly banging women?

You're argument was against Netflix and chill at 35. Yes, there's more to life and success than banging women but, I would argue that the lack thereof is a pretty good indicator of failure.

Is that a satisfying lifestyle?

I am not complaining lol

I am more saying that most women with an IQ above the very minimum is going to laugh at a 35 year old man suggesting "netflix and chill". It's more a criticism of the language than a deeper perspective.

You don't tell her idiot. You box her into booty call not upgrade to giving half your ****.

Man is his own worst enemy due to his level of complacency and mediocrity. I blame low testosterone. At 35+ it's more important to spin plates. Every other cuck is thinking it's time to play house with cratered smv.

Beyond a point in life, there really is more to life than banging women. Life is a lot easier by forgoing the right to act like you're 21 to pool resources with someone who is an equal or aligned in ambitions.

Sure if that's what you want but, is she top form sexual market value, on the early side of 20 or are you taking in low hanging fruit when the milks gone bad?

You don't tend to see truly great men who haven't had one or two marriages/LTRs.

Wrong. I see retards. Cucks, betas, low test.

Following the beaten path is far from greatness nor success.

If you point me to the man who married top form smv, early side of 20, who makes bank, adds value is your partner in crime, and life, I will applaud the man.

I know of a few. Most are marrying the first semi decent woman they find on the tail end of smv. She picks him now and divorces him later.

If you're pursuing that caliber of woman, power to you. Big ups. Otherwise, you may as well give away your resources.

It's not purely on looks. It's when a woman has the goods, you see her true colors, and if she isn't exploring self knowledge, she's following the beaten path. It's girl power in society which is cheering her off the cliff.

The extreme argument of either being a/ a red pill playboy and b/raising chad's baby is a gross simplification and was more believeable for me when I was in poor form and wanted to ascribe my lackings or lack of luck to a failure on someone elses part. There are a lot of shades of grey in between.

Spam approach, swipe right at life. Go balls deep or next set. Spin plates. No exceptions. It all ends one way or another. Nobody is getting out alive.

There are winners and there are losers. The beaten path is for the losers as is marrying cratered smv.

Different strokes, different folks. Different goals, different priorities

There's nothing wrong with your life choice. Ideally, acquire her young or next her.

If she allocates her best days as booty call and picks you to raise her bastard children or when thirty (gross), you may want to consider alternative options. Say much younger. Women and their predisposition to bulking and exercise being fork to mouth.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I'd recommend a career in some kind of construction job or a gym. Broseph.

Offer nothing but, commitment to cratered smv.

I'll bump this after you get cucked and divorced.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

This the "mature man" section.

Hence the term 'man' which you use loosely. Not the low testosterone section in which you should be banished indefinitely.

 

[marmel75]

Ok, I have a personal training business in an affluent area. Most of my clients are women. Housewives married to wealthy men.

They told me that if they ever got divorced, it would be like winning the lottery. They would get the best divorce attorney money can buy and take everything!

I see no point in marriage. You can raise children together without getting everything you worked for taken away from you.

In some states if you live together for a period of time, I think as little as 1 year in most of the places that have this, its considered a "common law" marriage and it basically doesnt matter that you weren't really married, you are legally in the same boat as if you were.

The worst part is if you live in a state that has common law marriage, meet the time threshold and then move to a state that doesn't, you still are considered to be in a "common law" marriage even though the actual state you are currently in doesnt have that law.

 

[R.U.G.]

In some states if you live together for a period of time, I think as little as 1 year in most of the places that have this, its considered a "common law" marriage and it basically doesnt matter that you weren't really married, you are legally in the same boat as if you were.

The worst part is if you live in a state that has common law marriage, meet the time threshold and then move to a state that doesn't, you still are considered to be in a "common law" marriage even though the actual state you are currently in doesnt have that law.

Only eight states offer common law. Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Texas, Utah. Don't live in these states, and you're golden.

 

[marmel75]

Only eight states offer common law. Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Texas, Utah. Don't live in these states, and you're golden.

You are missing Oklahoma and the District of Columbia as well...but otherwise accurate.

 

[R.U.G.]

Oklahoma's statute requires couples to get a marriage license; however case law has upheld common law marriages in the state. DC is not a State, so I didn't list it. Technically, DC is Federal District, not a territory or State.

 

[marmel75]

Oklahoma's statute requires couples to get a marriage license; however case law has upheld common law marriages in the state. DC is not a State, so I didn't list it. Technically, DC is Federal District, not a territory or State.

Yeah that's true...I just threw it in there because its part of the US although not many people actually live there.

Apparently New Hampshire only recognizes it for probate hearings but I'm not exactly sure what that means...

 

[Roober]

My ex made more than me, so she pays me child support. She tried to get full custody,but failed miserably. Took me to mediation and told the mediator "hes a great dad but he should only have them every other weekend". Probably the most heart wrenching thing is this people who get to choose the future for your kids. Fortunately, we had a 50/50 schedule already for over a year, so there was no reason to change from the mediator or judge. Now our 50/50 is set in stone. I dont wish that process on any man or woman. And I will never forgive her for that.

The key with the kids is start your 50/50 schedule immediately. The longer it is imbalanced, the greater chance a judge will rule in her favor. This is what men dont talk about, how she had them 80% of the time, then they ask for more when they learn how much child support they will be paying. At that point, it's been a year or more mostly with mom, and judges will want to keep the consistency.

For assets, our retirements were about equal, so that was a wash, and we split the equity on the house. She stayed put, so she had to buy me out. I had a bit of an inheritance, but always kept it in a second account, separate from "community property", so she couldn't touch it.

Men make many stupid decisions when they separate and bring most of the problems to themselves...
-they dont fight for the kids. I spent time with an attorney, not the one I selected, and she told me "dont give up on the kids. Women wont always fight for everything, but they will fight to the death for the kids"
-they mix all of their funds with the spouse. I learned long ago to always keep a piece for yourself.
-they get themselves in stupid situations, too many to list

We also used our family wizard and judges will put it in the court order if requested. We stopped about a year ago and have a very good thing going now. It took about 18 months for her to hate me less,but we got there...

 

[highSpeed]

You guys are missing a HUGE point of information that largely skews the divorce stats as far as the stereotype of the divorced woman getting all the assets, custody of children, etc.

And that is, MOST of the time, it is a woman leaving an AFC, and the AFC is clinging to the hope that they will get back together, so he does not fight the spouse in the divorce proceedings, and gets straight taken to the woodshed. I've seen this countless times. Of course the reasons they got married to begin with vary, but it all comes back to this new age belief of the AFC being weak and not manly, and while it seems that's what women want, it's proven to push them away, and even make them hostile - that's proven when these women just obliterate their husbands in the courtroom, and the man usually doesn't even get a lawyer.

When a woman cheats and the husband files, you don't see those same staggering numbers. Yes you must give up some assets, but not to the same extent.

This whole deal about society being feminist is nothing more than weak men being weak.

This is a silly question, it's like asking, does a bear sh*t in the woods? Answer, yes. Look, if you're married, have no pre-nup and/or trust and you have any real assets, you're going to lose a good bit, especially if there are kids involved plain and simple. You may be more ruthless if she cheats and you file but either way, unless she's desperate to get away from you, like she simply doesn't care about anything related to you anymore, you may get lucky. Most times though, you're getting taken to the woodshed regardless.

 

[Roober]

This is a silly question, it's like asking, does a bear sh*t in the woods? Answer, yes. Look, if you're married, have no pre-nup and/or trust and you have any real assets, you're going to lose a good bit, especially if there are kids involved plain and simple. You may be more ruthless if she cheats and you file but either way, unless she's desperate to get away from you, like she simply doesn't care about anything related to you anymore, you may get lucky. Most times though, you're getting taken to the woodshed regardless.

Just curious, have you been through a divorce? Assets are divided evenly and if a man was stupid enough to combine everything and let her work a low paying job, then the old saying goes... you reap what you sow

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Divorce means you get a huge **** in your ass, shaken down for your resources, and likely supervised visits to see children as if you were a pedo.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Just curious, have you been through a divorce? Assets are divided evenly and if a man was stupid enough to combine everything and let her work a low paying job, then the old saying goes... you reap what you sow

This is the equivalent of a male feminist.

Was he supposed to beat the **** out if her until she gets a real job?

Peterson pointed out, women date up in the dominance hierarchy and across culture whereas men date down. Way down.

It's no longer enough just to be young and on top form smv. It's all encompassing meaning, she has resources, has a good job, makes bank. No absurd debt, student loan or visa bills.

#nextset

Alternative is Netflix and chill.

You can't get her ass or her mouth pregnant.

Wait wut?

 

[Roober]

This is the equivalent of a male feminist.

Was he supposed to beat the **** out if her until she gets a real job?

Peterson pointed out, women date up in the dominance hierarchy and across culture whereas men date down. Way down.

It's no longer enough just to be young and on top form smv. It's all encompassing meaning, she has resources, has a good job, makes bank. No absurd debt, student loan or visa bills.

#nextset

Alternative is Netflix and chill.

You can't get her ass or her mouth pregnant.

Wait wut?

Agreed.

Men get it wrong when they see a beautiful woman with every other $hitty quality in the book, yet make her a wife or worse, get her pregnant.

Looks alone do not elevate a woman to your level, she needs much more than that.

Women without jobs, crappy credit, debt, single mom at 20yo, are plates only...

 

[Crosstimbers Okie]

First, I have the lowest opinion of the modern american woman and the divorce/family laws as anyone. But I think maybe this whole marriages always end in divorce and loss of half your assets is a little overblown and is misleading a lot of guys.

The fact is all things being equal spinning plates actually has more potential for pregnancies(not to mention stds) than a monogamous relationship. The logistics of controlling a pregnancy with one woman is a lot simpler than with multiple women. A pregnant woman you are not married to is as much or probably more a financial liability than one that you are. so it's no solution to the pregnancy and child support problem.

And about splitting half of the assets. It is possible that if you have acquired a lot of assets and you then marry a woman and she divorces you after a relatively short period of time, she could get some or half your assets that she did not contribute to. But really anymore women already have half your assets from the get go. They got it when feminism came along. And in most case they are bringing nearly half of the assets into the marriage and you are cutting your expenses since 2 people can live much cheaper in one household than in two. And statistically marriages last for several years. I have to admit though that in some cases women do make off with a guys assets. But for the same reasons marriage is fvcked up applies to the single life to.

Honestly a lot of time and money is spent perptually trying to find new plates. And the same reason why women don't make good wives also applies to why they don't make good dates, GFs, or FBs. it just doesn't seem like perpetual bachelorhood is much of a solution. And all the problems and shortcomings with it get downplayed and glossed over. Just maybe a lot of guys would be better off trying to find the best quality woman and being exclusive.

The end of my 23 year marriage cost me exactly half of my assets. Even though I contributed much more than half. She even got half of the marital portion of my pension, which came out to 40%, which the judge made a part of her estate.

But, even after losing half of my assets and 40% of my retirement, 100% of which was about half of my working income, I still have, with a part-time job, about 60% more disposable income than when I was married.

Divorce is expensive, but well worth it. The only thing better is never marrying in the first place. Better to get snipped & chase tail, or watch porn & jackoff. Your hand will do a better job than 80% of the women out there anyway.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Agreed.

Men get it wrong when they see a beautiful woman with every other $hitty quality in the book, yet make her a wife or worse, get her pregnant.

Looks alone do not elevate a woman to your level, she needs much more than that.

Women without jobs, crappy credit, debt, single mom at 20yo, are plates only...

They're all plates son.

#nextset