Does anything else matter more than LMS?

[Mr Wright]

Looks, Money and Status?

If you have all three, you get laid often whenever you want...simple.

If you have none, you get laid once in a blue moon, when you're drunk by some fat slag who was actually more interested in your friend but he has standards.


Looks

The most you can do is go to the gym and get a haircut, it's pretty much either you have it or you dont but you can go from like a 5 to a 7. Personally, I am pretty good looking and I know I do get laid purely off my looks. A girl last weekend was kinda indifferent towards me, then she got

Money

You can get away with not having much if you're young but the older you get, the more women are going to wonder why your a55 isnt rich. Those kids arent going to feed themselves. If you want women, attain wealth, the more you have, the better chances you have, its a pretty linear system.

Status

Celebrities, people in positions of power get laid because of who they are all the time. The average man in the street(unless hes got looks or his d!ck scraping the pavement) isnt going to have random women trying to jump on him...unless their drunk.


So where does game come into all this?

It's simple. The more of these things you have, the smaller the hurdle you have to get over. That is why if Will Smith goes up to a woman and implies he wants to sleep with her, she will probably put up a front for about 5 minutes...then give in. Otherwise you have to have seriously good game, thats why so many of you are still virgins or not getting the results you want because we live in a dog eat dog world, this website tells you if you do XYZ you will get pvssy. That is a lie, if you are clinically obese or dressed awfully or whatever else...unless you have amazing game, you are not going to get the top girls out there or even the second, third or fourth tier girls. That's why even the top guys out there who dont have money, looks or status still go out and try to acquire these things because they know it counts for something.

I honestly dont think you need half of the DJ Bible. Take the time out, try and work on LMS and you will get better results, which will increase your confidence and I think confidence and being unreactive to most things is half the battle. If you can smile at a girl who has cursed you out, crack a joke and keep hitting on her...you'll do well. Learn to escalate and learn to walk away.

The 3 Things You Need Game Wise To Get Girls

Confidence
The ability to sexualise things quickly
The balls to walk away if you're getting too much crap

Add to that any looks, money or status and you're lethal.

 

[dosquito]

Good post. Game doesn't really exist in the way lots of people on this forum think it does. It's all about your true market value (which varies from girl to girl, but remains more or less constant), how you play your options, and not having un-game.

 

[Neon Owl]

I have average looks, no money and no status. Had sex with a different girl nearly every week for the past couple months. And they weren't fat bloaters.

Money and status means fvck all. Looks plays a minor part but it's mostly down to how you carry yourself and how you make a woman feel in your presence.

 

[dosquito]

Listen Neon Owl, some of us are scientists here. We need evidence. Are you willing to show pictures of yourself or of the girls? I would say there are A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE of people with the charisma to have "average" looks, no money and no status and get quality tang on the regular. I'm talking 1 in 5000 guys.

 

[Neon Owl]

Listen Neon Owl, some of us are scientists here. We need evidence. Are you willing to show pictures of yourself or of the girls? I would say there are A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE of people with the charisma to have "average" looks, no money and no status and get quality tang on the regular. I'm talking 1 in 5000 guys.

What do you want, pictures of me banging each girl? I could show you my POF profile that has pictures of me but what would that prove? I would say I'm about a 5 or 6 but I do have a muscular physique which might put me up to a 7 depending on how much the girl in question values muscles.

If a girl digs you then she digs you, she won't be thinking with her logical mind wether or not you've got enough money in the bank or if you're status is high enough among your social circle.
Why would that sh1t even come up in conversation when you're just trying to get in her knickers?
Being popular or rich may give you some confidence to feel more deserving of women which will in turn translate into more success, but you're putting the cart before the horse there when you say these things are the cause of the success themselves.

When I meet a girl money and status is never mentioned. We shoot the sh1t, I make her laugh by being cheeky, acting indifferent and aloof the entire time. Then like clockwork they start leaning forward, brushing their hair and giggling at everything I say. From there to the f-close it's easy.

If you really do need money and status to get laid then maybe you're going after the wrong types of girls? Fvck the gold-diggers and attention wh0res you can have them all to yourself...as long as you have the money and are popular enough of course lol

 

[pdx1138]

Game matters most

^^THIS

I saw my brothers friend who's married, game girl after girl
one night when we were out. He's overweight (big gut hanging out)
and is not wealthy by any means.

But damn if he isn't able to get a girl wet just speaking/looking
at her for 5 minutes.

I was astonished when I saw him workin it.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

^^THIS

I saw my brothers friend who's married, game girl after girl
one night when we were out. He's overweight (big gut hanging out)
and is not wealthy by any means.

But damn if he isn't able to get a girl wet just speaking/looking
at her for 5 minutes.

I was astonished when I saw him workin it.

I always hear about these magical beings online, but I never see one in reality.

All I see in reality is good looking guys landing good looking girls. Sometimes what sounds logical is actually true.

I have an overweight friend who is VERY outgoing and not shy at all about talking to girls. All I see him date are overweight girls. A skinny hot girl immediately gives off a vibe of "don't even dare" and he knows it. Maybe it is just a Toronto thing.

 

[pdx1138]

He was gaming 7's at best...but still...how he was able to get them wet (at least the look on the girls faces and body language) so quickly was amazing to see.

 

[floydb25]

I always hear about these magical beings online, but I never see one in reality.

All I see in reality is good looking guys landing good looking girls. Sometimes what sounds logical is actually true.

I have an overweight friend who is VERY outgoing and not shy at all about talking to girls. All I see him date are overweight girls. A skinny hot girl immediately gives off a vibe of "don't even dare" and he knows it. Maybe it is just a Toronto thing.

Same experiences here. Even if you are shy, passive, etc, and the other guy is social, out-going, funny, etc, she will almost always choose you (GL guy) over him... Even flat-out avoid or reject him, and come sit by you, talk to you, flirt with you, etc. NEVER fails.

Honestly, I don't know any exceptions. You can even be skinny and him built. Still doesn't matter. "Hot" guys always get highest priority... and it's the face that matters most. The "crush" / infatuation women get... just as we do to them.

And -7's are understandable.

 

[Mike32ct]

I want to believe in "game," but I'm at a point where I can look at a guy that pulls and can quickly tell what his "niche" is.

It could be height, broad shoulders, face, skin tone, etc.

Even looks aside, this fat dude has "status" because he's married. Women notice wedding rings instantly. Take two guys of equal looks, one married and one single, and send them into a set. The married guy will do better because of pre-selection.

Plus fat dudes have physical dominance. It's not an aesthetic handsome look to men, but women sometimes read "big" = "attractive."

I like pdx and Pair and genuinely want to take your side, but it goes against what I've actually seen. Plus I'm too cynical sometimes lol. So I'm with Floyd and TilltheEndofTime.

 

[BeDJ]

Physical attraction to get your foot in the door. Game to put your penis in her vagina.

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