"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Does anyone on this website have a gf who is HB9+?

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I was just walking around today on campas, and it was graduation for some students, and I noticed these sisters who were graduating and they looked seriously like models. They were both about 5'7'', 110 lbs, cover-girl face w/ nice smile, and they were both going out with guys who were about a 7.5 in looks and style. And I wondered how they got them. I doubt they were rich; they didn't dress like it anyway.

And chances are they probably don't visit websites like this. So the average person on sosuave knows a lot more information on women than average guys out there, but it seems to me that the guys on here don't get the hot chicks. Most people on here seem to have the attitude that "women are just a bonus" and they are complacent if she is just decent looking. Do you think that is true?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The whole reason why guys come to this site is because they've had problems w/ women and they want to correct it.

So ya, most guys don't get hot girls from this site, but it doesn't mean they can't. And if they care enough to change themselves, everyone here can get hot girls.


I dont think a lot of guys are compacent with average looking girls unless they are desperate. the guys on here that follow the veterans advice regarding sarging do fine. The guys that are keyboard jockeys obviously are desperate and will take anything.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I gotta say that some of the things I've sunk my ****, both before and after this site, have not been up to par.

I did have better looking girlfriends before this site though. By the time that I had actually found this place were numbers were high and I'd been in 3 LTRs with girls who were 8+. I've had a lot in between those that were up there as well. The problem is that I was only attracted to most of them for looks, and that just wasn't enough, it was really just an ego stroke.

I dont know if it is this place, or that I've gotten a little more mature now, but looks dont matter as much. I've got a few girls in rotation right now and the one who I'm attracted to the most is probably the one that is the least physically attractive. The girl can take care of herself, doesn't have any serious issues (that I know of yet at least), is very feminine, and has very high interest. Knowing myself though, I'll drop her to upgrade and it will end up being a downgrade.
 

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I usually go for 8's. They are cute enough and usually have a more down to earth personality and tend to be more fun. I've been with a 9 once, the pvssy is no better than anyone elses. A nice body can compensate for a slightly less attractive face (for me anyways).
 

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mine is an 11. in my eyes of course - and that's all that's important.
 

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Both my friend and I, who rarely agree on women, scored the asian babe at the coffee shop a 9. Now she's my girlfriend and I know how great she is, she gets another couple of points. So she's an 11 now. I love mocking science.

I've dated and ****ed dozens of 9s and 10s, and I did it by working out a lot of this DJ ideas long before I came here. I Applying more of it fixed a few bugs, and now I am a master.

Before I found this place I had my own humorous advice forum 'Towelie's Linen Closet Of Love' which may be cached somewhere.

So, like, take my advice I know of what I speak. What was the question?
 

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To have a girlfriend thats a HB9+ you would have to get used to the fact that the girl will contantly getting hit on, even when your stood right next to them, obviously being there boyfriend. These guys that where with these model girls where probably not the jealous type and just laughed it off knowing at the end of the day they would be coming home with them. Guys that get jealous when they have SHB's would be ditched in a shot. These girls are used to all this attention, its there way of life. If some guy there with kicks off at every single guy that comes on to them they wont be sticking around to long. A girl would rather be with a 7 that didnt get jealous all the time than a 10 that did 100%. Easier said than done though I suppose, I've ruined many a relationship with unecessary jealousy....how hum!
oooh i'm rambling somewhat....have I gone of the topic!?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Warboss Alex said:
mine is an 11. in my eyes of course - and that's all that's important.
Same here! My current girlfriend is everything I've ever wanted in a girl and I wouldn't trade her for anyone else!

I've dated a number of hb9s, including a couple of models, but their personalities fell below my standards. Any average chump can chase after HB9s, but when you start rejecting them, that's when you know you've got some real confidence!
 

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okay, so if a girl is not that attractive, but you think she is, then you will be happy.
 

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I've always went for 8s.

From what I've seen, the girls that are super hot have more attitude and are high maintenance. Very rarely, will I find a 9 that is not high maintenance.

Not only that, I'm not too comfortable with a lot of guys gawking at her.

I always go for 8s.

I'd rather have a cute girl with some ass than a hot girl with no ass. No ass, no pass.

Ideally, would want a girl with a cute, pretty and innocent face and the body of a slut.
 

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I love Hyori Lee said:
I've always went for 8s.

From what I've seen, the girls that are super hot have more attitude and are high maintenance. Very rarely, will I find a 9 that is not high maintenance.

Not only that, I'm not too comfortable with a lot of guys gawking at her.

I always go for 8s.

I'd rather have a cute girl with some ass than a hot girl with no ass. No ass, no pass.

Ideally, would want a girl with a cute, pretty and innocent face and the body of a slut.

Oh my god, thats the way I think!
Although there actually 10 in my book, but 8 in everyone elses. and everyone elses 10's are a 6 to me. The whole blonde hair big boobs, generally the porn star look doesnt do it for me.
If they've got a cute face, nice ass and nice flat stomach then there a 10 to me no question, i wouldn't care what any one else thinks. But some people would prefere and uglier fatter chick, just cos she had bigger boobs!
The whole attitude as you put it is a major turn off too.
its funny how different people like types of women i think, I wonder where it comes from!
I'll have to check out this hyori lee chick your talking about, she might be my dream woman!!!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Doggystyle said:
To have a girlfriend thats a HB9+ you would have to get used to the fact that the girl will contantly getting hit on, even when your stood right next to them, obviously being there boyfriend. These guys that where with these model girls where probably not the jealous type and just laughed it off knowing at the end of the day they would be coming home with them. Guys that get jealous when they have SHB's would be ditched in a shot. These girls are used to all this attention, its there way of life. If some guy there with kicks off at every single guy that comes on to them they wont be sticking around to long. A girl would rather be with a 7 that didnt get jealous all the time than a 10 that did 100%. Easier said than done though I suppose, I've ruined many a relationship with unecessary jealousy....how hum!
oooh i'm rambling somewhat....have I gone of the topic!?
I've been saying this around here for years. While this may be slightly off topic to the original thread it is something that a lot of people around here dont want to believe. Hot girls have an enormous amount of options, a secure man knows that he is the best though.
 

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My most recent ex is a 9.3.



Warboss Alex said:
mine is an 11. in my eyes of course - and that's all that's important.
Warboss comes out of retirement for a cameo appearance!

Permission said:
They were both about 5'7'', 110 lbs, cover-girl face w/ nice smile, and they were both going out with guys who were about a 7.5 in looks and style. And I wondered how they got them. I doubt they were rich; they didn't dress like it anyway.
1) 5'7, 110 can't be anything more than an 8. That height/weight means no boobs, no butt, no legs.
2) They had confidence and made the moves. Guys at SS are mostly KBJs.
 

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Doggystyle said:
To have a girlfriend thats a HB9+ you would have to get used to the fact that the girl will contantly getting hit on, even when your stood right next to them, obviously being there boyfriend. These guys that where with these model girls where probably not the jealous type and just laughed it off knowing at the end of the day they would be coming home with them. Guys that get jealous when they have SHB's would be ditched in a shot. These girls are used to all this attention, its there way of life. If some guy there with kicks off at every single guy that comes on to them they wont be sticking around to long. A girl would rather be with a 7 that didnt get jealous all the time than a 10 that did 100%. Easier said than done though I suppose, I've ruined many a relationship with unecessary jealousy....how hum!
oooh i'm rambling somewhat....have I gone of the topic!?
This is true. I actually love it when guys gawk at my girlfriend, because it's a compliment to my tastes, and I can't blame her for getting gawked at - all she can control is how she responds to the many guys that hit on her.
 

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a 9 to one guy might be a 6 to another guy

if your girl is a true 9 (10's don't exist) that would mean that everywhere she goes everybody notices her

every guy wants to be with them and every girl wants to be them or hates them

the true 9's make a good amount of money off their looks
 

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MetalFortress said:
1) 5'7, 110 can't be anything more than an 8. That height/weight means no boobs, no butt, no legs.
Well I didn't actually weigh them lol..but I mean they had bone structure that was very thin (model like), she did have nice butt, though her boobs were probably slightly smaller than average.

2) They had confidence and made the moves. Guys at SS are mostly KBJs.
True.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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