"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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does anyone feel like the number of increasing DJs is changing the way women act?

garruk

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hey guys,

How do you guys react to girls who tease/bust your balls? im finding that sometimes when a girl is teasing me (in the same way i might tease a girl), usually something harmless like my shoes or my current facebook status, i start to use C+F to repsond... which continues a cycle where she keeps teasing and i keep using C+F. ultimately...this goes no where, and we both get tired of it, and the conversation sort of dies.

I dont know if any of you have ever had this problem? Can i have some tips in getting out of this situation? should i try to turn the tables on her?


thanks in adnvace guys
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jitterbug

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The number of DJs hasn't really increased, but there's been an explosive increase in the number of C&F social robots, thanks to sites like this one.

C&F is "pushing". Too much pushing is bad. You need "pulling" too to balance it out.

AFC sucking up is too much "pulling" so when those clueless nice guys learn about "Game", they go to the other extreme and become clueless ****y guys.

Find a balance that suits your personality and the girl you're gaming.
 

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Because of how exposed the community is, I'm paranoid of using any canned type of openers at all. Even when I honestly do want an opinion from a woman on something (in a bar/club), I'm weary of her thinking I'm regurgitating something I read in a book or online. Oh well, all for the best I suppose as one must constantly learn to adapt one's game to the situation.
 
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Bucket hit it on the head... The key is to be socially comfortable and able to make conversation with just about anyone regardless of the situation. Generally if there is good chemistry you wont find yourself in one of those back and forth teasing matches all day.. Like I always tease women but not too much.. there is a time and place for C&F and a time to turn it off and just be chill.

I honestly am not worried about all the guys learning the DJ stuff and trying to apply it. It truly takes years to master it and actually find that balance and build the confidence necessary to truly find a good woman and lock her down..

I do think this site needs to explain that EVERY WOMAN is different and that not every woman is going to be attracted to you, just because you have "game".. It doesn't hurt, but at some point you have to sit back and realize that some women (mainly the ones who are attractive, confident alpha women who truly don't need a man) are extremely picky and selective about who they end up with. They don't believe in settling and they wont. I also believe that if the chemistry is not there and she doesn't look at me in a certain way, then I wont try.

After talking to and hanging out with and dating enough women, you just know when you find one that truly digs you and it just feels right. You still need to project confidence and be the man, but you don't have to try as hard. Right now I have a really awesome relationship going, but she knows I don't need her and I know she doesn't need me. We can both choose who we wanted to be with and we chose each other.. We have both been in a few relationships and learned what we want and need from a partner and we hit it off because we have things in common. Did I DJ her? Not so much, minus being ****y funny at first and not stressing her like all the clingy dudes who were trying to date her when we first started talking..

Laid back but confident goes a long way. Women can smell false confidence a long way away, and a lot of women are b1tches, who play games with guys they know they would never end up with. You just have to feel her out in beginning and truthfully act like you don't care if she likes you or if you see her again. I'm not a **** about it, but I make sure the woman knows that from beginning..
 

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garruk said:
hey guys,

How do you guys react to girls who tease/bust your balls? im finding that sometimes when a girl is teasing me (in the same way i might tease a girl), usually something harmless like my shoes or my current facebook status, i start to use C+F to repsond... which continues a cycle where she keeps teasing and i keep using C+F. ultimately...this goes no where, and we both get tired of it, and the conversation sort of dies.

I dont know if any of you have ever had this problem? Can i have some tips in getting out of this situation? should i try to turn the tables on her?


thanks in adnvace guys
Classic mistake. You need to escalate kino AND sexuality. CF is great for breaking rapport and flirting. But it's also awesome for breaking the tension that gets created when you go sexual so she'll be more apt to accept the sexual frame.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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C+F is for attraction. Once she's attracted you gotta make a move. That's why you're not going anywhere. Get to a point where you get completely serious for a moment and ask for some a lone time, kiss her. Then get her trust you, then lay.
 

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Nothing much has changed. Some girls have been exposed to the game. Some haven't. That would ONLY affect your ability to get away with cut paste canned lines. Some girls might have heard them already.

You can still use the underlying concepts.
 

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A couple weeks ago, a girl looked at me and said, "Are you one of those ****y guys?" Seriously, people are abusing this crap.
 

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OP: you're losing sight of the forest for the trees. You should be developing an overall attractive lifestyle and good social skills in general. It's lame when you focus too much on one technique.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Outside of London, Game is lost on virtually everyone. Actually, what I've learnt here is overpowered to be quite frank for most conservative British girls. Not that I care
 

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andy1989 said:
if you live in a major city, avoid opinion opener like swine flu. There are so many Mystery clones floating around New York and LA that it's scary.
They're in Atlanta too!

C+F is a good start, but escalate on the kino and the sexuality! You gotta make a move.

Read my signature and understand the metaphor.
 

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TheBucketOfTruth said:
Because of how exposed the community is, I'm paranoid of using any canned type of openers at all. Even when I honestly do want an opinion from a woman on something (in a bar/club), I'm weary of her thinking I'm regurgitating something I read in a book or online. Oh well, all for the best I suppose as one must constantly learn to adapt one's game to the situation.
second that

In fact, I realized the more DJs the better. I found the community before the "pick-up artist" started airing and I used canned routines for a while. Then came the show and at first I was pissed at Mystery for "selling us out". Now I am so thankful to him! Dropping canned material was the best thing that happened to me as it forced me to develop my natural game.

More C&F robots means girls are actually appreciative to find someone who can genuinely make them laugh/entertain them. Crappy DJs just make better DJs look good

As far as getting into a C&F war with a girl, you should realize you're not being funny, hence the whole purpose of c&f is lost...
 

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The bottom line is you should always be in control and be able to manipulate how the conversation goes. In your case, if the girl is teasing you repeatedly and you're replying with lots of C&F, switch your tone the next time she teases you. Let her realise that you can actually hold a decent conversation with her, instead of only flirting. It's like how wrestling plays a part in an MMA fight, you dictate where the fight goes - to the ground or staying on your feet.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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garruk said:
hey guys,


I dont know if any of you have ever had this problem? Can i have some tips in getting out of this situation? should i try to turn the tables on her?


thanks in adnvace guys
KINO
 

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The teasing should be fun, keyword FUN, if you're not having fun doing it then obviously the interaction is going to die out. Don't overcomplicate things, you're just looking to have a pleasurable social interaction with the girl, that is it.

And no, the increasing number of DJ's or PUAs is not going to change a thing. Night clubs are just AS packed as they were before and it's not as if guys weren't hitting on girls before the game.
 
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