"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Does anyone else SUCK at opening, but is good after that?

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I've been thinking a little bit and have pretty much isolated my problem with pick ups.... once I start talking to someone, I'm good to go... but the actual opening process is what I totally suck at

is anyone else like this? or have you been like this in the past?

what kind of things did you do to get better at opening?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah, you just have to bite the bullet. It seems awkward at first but once you start interacting it gets fun from there.
 
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I can pick up, hold conversations, all that jazz, get numbers. But then, i need to call her... I got pretty much all the balls I need, it's just I have a couple problems
1. I generally don't care
2. I don't call unless I want to do something
3. No time to do stuff
4. Creativity block when it comes to dates

Probably I can approach like mad since I don't care, but I don't care enough to call, or try to organize something, and I feel kinda left out cuz of it. Oh well.

I used to have a bit of a shell keeping me in, but I popped out and I just chill with the world. I think I changed because of an overload of caring what they think, et cetera. I just switched and don't care anymore at all.

Maybe it was being so preoccupied with this and that, that time to think about reactions faded, and I just do stuff. . .

Maybe it's my new out of shell wiring as a pole vaulter: I think this is dangerous, but its cool, so let's see how it goes. I i'mprove my technique, become more confident with a pole, and move up to the next pole that's longer and stiffer, to get me higher, at which case I'm like "this could be dangerous, but it feels cool, let's see what happens."
 
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A friend of mine used to make a huge deal out of opening. He thought he had to go in with THE perfect line/story/question-- he thought that the opener was meant to make the girl fall in love with him right there. After thinking about it he realized that the opener only does that, breaks the ice.

If you go in and the girl replies with anything other than "please leave" or just looks at you as she reaches for her pepper spray, then you are already in conversation, hence she is open to the possibility of being influenced by you. So you have nothing to worry about, other than a good followup to the opener.

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