Does anybody here find it easier to get women/dates than make friends with men?

[bigdave17]

If you are out there, please explain to me WTF is wrong with you? Talking to men is unbelievably easy - you have a million things in common and they are super easy to talk to. Initiating a conversation with an attractive woman is pretty f*cking horrible. For example, at my gym, I know all the guys there and could probably hang out with multiple of them if I ever got bored with my current friends. Trying to initiate something with the female hotties is really horrific


I will say that talking to ugly or fat women is pretty easy but that's probably because I'm a good looking dude in great shape and you can tell that I'm very successful/classy/well spoken so I'm considered a huge prize to them. I'm prolly considered totally disposable to attractive women - they likely have a million guys like me hitting on them 24-7

 

[The Duke]

Most females aren't that secure. It takes a secure person to engage in basic convo with a stranger. My guess is they assume every guy that approaches them wants to fuhk them. Many times I preface the conversation with "no, I'm not hiting on you" which helps.

 

[sosousage]

If you are out there, please explain to me WTF is wrong with you? Talking to men is unbelievably easy - you have a million things in common and they are super easy to talk to. Initiating a conversation with an attractive woman is pretty f*cking horrible. For example, at my gym, I know all the guys there and could probably hang out with multiple of them if I ever got bored with my current friends. Trying to initiate something with the female hotties is really horrific


I will say that talking to ugly or fat women is pretty easy but that's probably because I'm a good looking dude in great shape and you can tell that I'm very successful/classy/well spoken so I'm considered a huge prize to them. I'm prolly considered totally disposable to attractive women - they likely have a million guys like me hitting on them 24-7

dude stop calling yourself good looking. face is most important

 

[RangerMIke]

Getting chicks is a lot easier than finding REAL male friends. A real male friend is a guy that when you call him up a 2 am and tell him you need him at a certain place at a certain time, he will do this with no questions asked. I have two like this, they are worth their weight in gold.

 

[Urbanyst]

If a guy is blue pill, he is not (and never was) your friend.

Blue pill men are not capable of being real friends with other men. What you get instead is a strange competitive relationship where you can tell they are competing with you.

Its pathetic.

Back to women:

 

[EmotionalGeek]

For last year I've been on more dates with woman than made new male friends. So for me it's easier to go on date than make friend I would meet on regular basis outside organized group activities like e.g. boxing gym

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Nah it's just as easy to chat s*** with men and women. It's no harder with either.

The hard part is trying to get a woman romantically interested in you with conversation. That's something you never have to do with guys, and it's the only difficult bit.

 

[Von]

Getting chicks is a lot easier than finding REAL male friends. A real male friend is a guy that when you call him up a 2 am and tell him you need him at a certain place at a certain time, he will do this with no questions asked. I have two like this, they are worth their weight in gold.

I would add Ranger.

Would any of the girls or guy you hang with... be there on your death bed?

You'll know they are REAL if they sacrifice for you (like waking up at 2am to help you out).

The REAL friends will visit you at the hospital on your death bed.

Sure, life can get in the way... but they will always they in reach somehow or come back somehow when it's the most needed.

I need more male friends than girl... its easy for me to get girls to surround me... really hard with guys.

So I need to work the guys... and you know... if you have a guy crew.. It will be easier to date girls. Cause you'll have social proof (people hang out with you and have fun), and multiple helpers (the guys will wingman with you, or bring girls in your group).

I can say : my side at 29 years old... I have 7 closes guy friends. (Who aren't at all standing at the same level as me...) so I need to raise up my social circle. But these 6 guys I know they will be there no matter what.

Recently, I've got close with 3 guys who are in the income brackets I aspire to develop my network.

I know alot of people, people know me... but I have max 20 friends, 7 are closes ones

 

[Murk]

I just find people quite sh1t in general but women have something I want so I put more effort in with them. I have a handful of close male friends (3-4) and a few others I can do stuff one of one with.

I find women easier to talk to and I get along better with them but not in a friendship way. I get on well with all the girls in my office. Men are more stand offish. Jealous. They’ll size me up, I win men over, over time. Women lap me up instantaneously. I stopped caring why. I don’t seek male validation. I do seek women though.

 

[RangerMIke]

Recently, I've got close with 3 guys who are in the income brackets I aspire to develop my network.

This is the best advice I can give anyone, that anybody can do. Hang out and network with people you aspire to be. You will become like the people you hang out with.

 

[EmotionalGeek]

This is the best advice I can give anyone, that anybody can do. Hang out and network with people you aspire to be. You will become like the people you hang out with.

There is a tiny problem though. You have to find such great people and they need to be interested in spending time with you.

 

[bigdave17]

To be quite honest, i probably treat men the same way women do. I can be quite flakey.

Cold approach is harder for loads of different reasons. Just meet women through social circles if you're wanting a girlfriend.

dude, we're supposed to be men. There is absolutely no excuse to be flaky towards your friends. You promise somebody you're going to be somewhere, you show the f*ck up. Respect people and people's time

What the hell happened to treating people the way you want to be treated? How pissed off would you be if you were supposed to hang out with a male friend and he flaked on you for no reason? Some of you guys are fukking a$$holes here. I think it's American morals - I was raised in Armenia, we are taught that we do anything for friends and family.

As far as meet girlfriend through my social circle? Be right back, let me engineer a 24-28 year old cute Italian/Greek/Spanish/Middle Eastern girl with a decent job and nice fit body and have her somehow be single in my social circle

 

[sosousage]

dude, we're supposed to be men. There is absolutely no excuse to be flaky towards your friends. You promise somebody you're going to be somewhere, you show the f*ck up. Respect people and people's time

but why are you cryin? all day all night