"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Does a real DJ LIE to women?

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The reality is, not everyone's looking for the same thing.

Now I'm sure you guys all had a time when there was a girl you just wanted to ****. Thing is, not every guy has honed skills and experience picking up chicks. It's not that easy to get a girl to agree to just **** and forget about it. Some guys have picked up hundreds of girls and got so much practice that they probably don't even need to think about it but that's not the case for most guys even those with above average success with women.

And even if you do get a girl to agree to just **** and leave you got to be really careful because STDs are a real threat. If you go to a club and talk to a girl and an hour later she's at your apartment sucking your skin flute, how do you know she hasn't done it to 1000 guys already and is giving you herpes or some ****? She just went to a total stranger's house for sex, man.

Being all upfront and honest is all fine, but integrity sometimes gets in the way of you getting laid. Girls get really attached to guys sometimes, they get their hearts broken easily and they lie to themselves about what a good guy you are. Sometimes you don't even have to tell a lie and she'll just assume you want to start a family with her or something since they got all this fantasy in their minds from all those romance novels or whatever. If you're concerned about integrity you might lose an opportunity to tap some nice ass. Man in this world women are basically worshipped by guys, it's unbelievable... they get away with **** we wouldn't even dream of doing. But we're the bad guys.

Now I'm conflicted about this really because this site afaik is all about being a man... whatever your definition of that is. But the world is harsh, you give someone the opportunity to rip you off you get ****ing burned. Most people don't give a ****.

I mean I'm all for being an upstanding man and being able to look someone in the face and saying the truth. But sometimes I wonder... what for, man? No one really cares about me but me so sometimes being honest and upright doesn't really serve you. I feel guilty sometimes because I did mislead women but I wonder if I'm just a moron for feeling guilty about it sometimes. whatever

What you guys think?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah probably there's no such thing as a real DJ who has never lied to a woman.

That's too conservative, too restrictive.

Lying might be necessary depending on what you want. I find it easier not to lie and tell them outright that I want OPEN boundaries (instead of Dirichlet Boundaries for the mathematically minded) ..

I have been able to get it in last few years so things are good. Feminism is not a total enemy after all, since all this I could only dream to have 40 years ago.

Maybe I am wrong.
 

froznie

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Boilermaker said:
Yeah probably there's no such thing as a real DJ who has never lied to a woman.
Yeah I think so too. I was watching the direct dating summit with Alan Roger Currie and David X and these guys seem to be all about "be honest be honest be honest"... and saying stuff like it's natural for them to be honest and that's just how they are. But they don't really practice what they preach.

Alan Roger Currie made a fake identity on Wikipedia to try to create a page in his own name then lied when he was caught, and David X pirated the DVD and sold it without the promoter's permission. It's not like these guys don't lie even if they tell people not to lie.

In the end it just feel stupid really... women lie like **** but no, we got to be honest with them. I don't really get the objective... I'm conflicted about it like you, I guess in the end it's just a question of personal choice, whether your own sense of "integrity" is more important than whatever you get from lying
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Does a 'real' women lie to men?

...all the time

you have to fight fire with fire :)
 

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if you try to talk to them like normal people they will think there is something wrong you.
 

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Scars said:
If you're a bad liar maybe.

-Scars
my dad is the only one who can tell when i'm lying. i fvcking hate playin poker with him!:crackup:
 

In2theGame

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Nahhh i never lie to a female because i know women always keep it 100% honest with me....:rolleyes: Come on man...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women can dish it out but can't take it!

Women prefer exciting lies over boring truths.

I've had to say that I was a brain surgeon and then I spoke the lingo. This got the panties wet ($$$$$) and then I deleted the number soon after. Point proven.

Case closed. Don't all women lie?
 

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Why on earth would you be honest? I don't think I'll ever be honest until I'm married. And that ain't happening for awhile.
 

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RedZone said:
It's not lying; It's flirting.
Purefilth likes this.:yes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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