"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Does a man's bike have to be a Harley?

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I suppose this is kind of like the "driving a stick" thread. But one I think may have even more relevance.

So if we have another make of motorcycle besides a Harley, do you think it will delete points with chicks from our "Man Card"?

Thoughts...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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My bike is a 1990 Suzuki GS500e. I paid $600 for it. Girls think it's a crotch rocket. It's actually sport touring, which makes everything from tires to insurance be a lot cheaper. And it gets 55 mpg.

Harley is a culture more than anything. Biker clubs don't allow foreign-made bikes. Harleys have their own fan base who are devoted to them. I don't know about the laws where you live, but in states without helmet laws, I hardly ever see Harley riders wear helmets. In my own opinion, that is fvcking moronic. One of my best friends died on a Harley last year. He and I used to both have R1s, and we always wore helmets. But he moved back to Phoenix, bought a Harley, and stopped wearing his helmet. A car did a lane change into him on the expressway; his wife was on the back. She was ok. He hit his head just right. He'd have been ok had he been wearing any kind of helmet at all.
 

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Everything bible belt said. All the gear all the time no excuses. When you're driving and riding for everyone else on the road you cant afford not to.
 

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glass half full said:
I suppose this is kind of like the "driving a stick" thread. But one I think may have even more relevance.

So if we have another make of motorcycle besides a Harley, do you think it will delete points with chicks from our "Man Card"?

Thoughts...
It all depends on the woman. Some know stuff about bikes and some don't. I think most won't care as long as it looks nice to them.
 

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Harley

Had a few, have one now.

Nothing compares, not even the best Japanese look alike rip off. For a big bike it handles better than the knock offs, looks better, and generally rides better. Also lasts longer but that's subjective. My current fxdx was bought in 2003. Still looks great, almost 80.K miles.
Women are more comfortable on it, want to be seen on it, and will want to be seen with you on it, tell their friends..buy the boots, etc. Big social validation for chicks. Women envision themselves walking into a bar,restaurant decked out in boots, jacket,eyes turning her way. She'll want to tell her friends about her barely tame boyfriend she's able to pull.

Buells, BMW's, even a ktm 950 type bike have came and gone. I always keep at least two street bikes. Better performing bikes? Sure. The Harley is the panty wetter.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Short answer ; no. I own 2 , one of them is a Suzuki GSX1300 Hayabusa the other is a brand new BMW S1000RR. I saw it and fall in love immediately. I love sport bikes.
 

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I had a couple of Hondas back in the 80's. Started on a 250 Rebel, which many thought on sight it was a Sportster. That's what I always wanted. Later on, got a '89 Honda Shadow 600. Then in late 90's got my dream bike, a '78 Sportster.

Had issues riding motorcycles ever since, due to a lower back problem which has recurred a few times over the years. Pilonidal Abscess. Makes riding very undesirable. Now that I'm getting that fixed later this month (for good this time, told them I want the fvcker removed completely instead of drained and sewed back up.) Will be healing an open wound from the inside out for two months.

Thinking about selling it, but chicks love bikes so much, and I'll take any advantage with them I can. But the Sportster (also known as "half a Harley, Skirtster, etc.) is less than comfy for a female passenger. So thinking about an older one, maybe a Super Glide of the same vintage. Trying to keep the cost down. I'm not about to spend 20 grand on a fvcking bike. And like you guys, I don't like the idea of riding with no helmet. Though I used to all the time. Had really long hair too back then...combing it out afterwards was an S.O.B...

But I always noticed chicks looked, saw the old bikes I was riding wasn't a Harley, and kept on. They are very picky around here. (likely everywhere).
So it's something I'm debating. Any comments pro or con are welcome.
 

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I'm a big guy (6'4"). So when I rode, I liked Harleys best.

If you're sized right for them Ducati makes some bikes that look and ride like fighter jets - handsome things.

Without a brain bucket, you're just an organ donor in waiting.
 

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glass half full said:
I had a couple of Hondas back in the 80's. Started on a 250 Rebel, which many thought on sight it was a Sportster. That's what I always wanted. Later on, got a '89 Honda Shadow 600. Then in late 90's got my dream bike, a '78 Sportster.

Had issues riding motorcycles ever since, due to a lower back problem which has recurred a few times over the years. Pilonidal Abscess. Makes riding very undesirable. Now that I'm getting that fixed later this month (for good this time, told them I want the fvcker removed completely instead of drained and sewed back up.) Will be healing an open wound from the inside out for two months.

Thinking about selling it, but chicks love bikes so much, and I'll take any advantage with them I can. But the Sportster (also known as "half a Harley, Skirtster, etc.) is less than comfy for a female passenger. So thinking about an older one, maybe a Super Glide of the same vintage. Trying to keep the cost down. I'm not about to spend 20 grand on a fvcking bike. And like you guys, I don't like the idea of riding with no helmet. Though I used to all the time. Had really long hair too back then...combing it out afterwards was an S.O.B...

But I always noticed chicks looked, saw the old bikes I was riding wasn't a Harley, and kept on. They are very picky around here. (likely everywhere).
So it's something I'm debating. Any comments pro or con are welcome.
No offense man .............you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
 

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YawataNoKami said:
No offense man .............you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
be more specific...doing what for the wrong reasons?

my subject was kind of all over the place there.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If you want to kept the bike , kept it because you like it no because of the women. The same for all your hobbies.
 

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Specifically, Harley Electra Standard..know a dude who bangs chicks (all "legal" ages, he's 46), he also is big, hunts, speaks spanish fluently, knows a ton of people like 5000 who ask about him ALL the TIME I sh!t you not, chain smoker, blond hair down to his a5s, and is full of himself, of course, never married.

On the other hand, I've talked about another dude I know/work with who rides a CHEAP as5ed dirt bike w/ or without helmet Everywhere in 20 degree weather even. He's 57 at least and pulls 20s po0n regularly, divorced, kids all grown. He even lives in a trailor park, and his women are probably THAT "classy" as well, but at least he's still nailin the young po0n at 57.
 

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It depends on how much a girl knows about bikes. I ride a Harley, but I don't like tatted-up "Harley Chicks". A woman who doesn't know much about bikes will usually be equally excited about a Harley or an Asian or European bike if it has that general rough Harley feel. Rice rockets... only for the very young. More mature women tend to dislike them.
 

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I used to own a Harley. Have a search for "Southpark Harley Fags." Funny episode that takes the (genuine piss) out of Harley riders. So frigging funny. I ever hear another Hog rider blip his damn engine again, I'm going to puke...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I've always liked them myself. In fact my brother in law and I are currently restoring a '72. I like the modern ones, too.
 

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Harleys are way expensive, so I have a Yamaha cruiser. I don't care what chicks think, or anybody else. I bought what I was able to pay for. Trust me, 90% of them don't know what you're riding. Just ride what you like.
 

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Ride what you are interested in. Don't buy something just to posture that is a ***** move. Me, I am 37 so I still enjoy riding 4 wheelers, dirt bikes and crotch rockets (much slower now) but when I am old the Harley may be a go to but for now I would rather be me and do what I enjoy then posture for a flipping women who will eventually disappoint me anyways
 
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