Doc Love's System

[OctoberPumpkin]

So, I'm way behind the times - I'm respondng to a post in 2003.
I am appalled by this advice to men, particulary about the Smooch test on the first date.
And being hard to get ect.

First of all I, and I do not know how many other women, use the first date to simply establish character and to discern if there are common values and interests to see the guy again. This usually does not include a Smooch on the lips. It may include some affection or affectionate gestures if the guy's character is good and you beleive you have enough common interests and values to proceed.
Playing hard to get is a woman's perogitive - not a man's. He should not be too anxious, that is correct and bestowing gifts and flowers on the first date makes him look desparate or manipulative, but the other advice is bogus.

If these guys did this with me I would never see them again. If they are playing hard to get what the hell am I suppose to do???? Men are now, have always been and always will be in the power position. The small amount of power women have is to be discerning, discriminating and put a high value on themselves so that they are not used, abused or devalued.

Men have other issues but it is not being used, abused or devalued.

The System is misleading and bull...
It is better to have integrity, be honest, be yourself, have manners, be polite, if interested be so, if not, then dont. But PLEEZE forget the games.

 

[justiceseeker]

So, I'm way behind the times - I'm respondng to a post in 2003.
I am appalled by this advice to men, particulary about the Smooch test on the first date.
And being hard to get ect.

First of all I, and I do not know how many other women, use the first date to simply establish character and to discern if there are common values and interests to see the guy again. This usually does not include a Smooch on the lips. It may include some affection or affectionate gestures if the guy's character is good and you beleive you have enough common interests and values to proceed.
Playing hard to get is a woman's perogitive - not a man's. He should not be too anxious, that is correct and bestowing gifts and flowers on the first date makes him look desparate or manipulative, but the other advice is bogus.

If these guys did this with me I would never see them again. If they are playing hard to get what the hell am I suppose to do???? Men are now, have always been and always will be in the power position. The small amount of power women have is to be discerning, discriminating and put a high value on themselves so that they are not used, abused or devalued.

Men have other issues but it is not being used, abused or devalued.

The System is misleading and bull...
It is better to have integrity, be honest, be yourself, have manners, be polite, if interested be so, if not, then dont. But PLEEZE forget the games.

Yeah, women are so honest, full of integrity and NEVER play games Where are men in a position of power? Most of the time women chose who they date and guys have to make asses out of themselves by pursuing them.


Now you come on the board wanting a pity party. You're just pissed off that some guys don't play into your BS and have no problem walking away.

Whay

 

[I'm Charming]

Playing hard to get is a woman's perogitive - not a man's.

Double standards at play here - "don't play games, that's my job."

Sorry, but if you're a man you'll do whatever you want, this in particular is a good idea because it conforms to basic psychology, don't give someone what they want and they'll only want it more, works for both men and women and you'd be a fool to deny it.

Please don't play games? The whole thing is a game, it's a societal construct designed to weed out the weak and find the strong. You play a game to gauge your getting the best value partner and they in return - will either;

a) Follow your game - where you are in control - which is what you are saying this should be.
b) Create their own game - where they make you jump the hoops.
c) Ignore your game entirely - usually a more rudimentary caveman style.

Men are not in control if you are playing the game, they have lost their dominance, which is a biological issue btw - it is not a feminine quality to be dominant, this will never change, but if I make a dog jump through hoops, who's in control? Me or the dog?

Me, end of story.

 

[ketostix]

The fact that you're a woman saying Doc Love's system doesn't work is strong proof that it does work. What you hate most about the system is you are one of the types of broads that the sytem says to eliminate lol. But in reality you would probably act different to a guy who was being a challenge. That's another point Doc Love makes, don't pay any attention to what a woman says, only what she does.

 

[kingman]

What is this system? Is it like the dj bible?

 

[Wynston]

Yeah It's a dating dictionary..

Doc Love's spent over 30 years interviewing women on what they believe works and doesnt work in a relationships so he has a lot of credibility, he doesnt speak for every woman out there, but he categorises them, you have your feministas which I suppose are your man haters and you have your mercenaries which are the money grabbers there are a lot more... But its a system that works.. Women will always play games and men havent got a clue, but if they are taught the ways then it would be better for both the man and the woman who's interest will always remain high, its not about getting one over on the women its about cutting this 50% divorce rate and couples actually being happy!!

 

[DJ#7436]

The fact that you're a woman saying Doc Love's system doesn't work is strong proof that it does work.

That's another point Doc Love makes, don't pay any attention to what a woman says, only what she does.

2 Great points

DJ

 

[justiceseeker]

2 Great points

DJ

If doc love doesn't want you to listen to what women say, then why did he spend all that time interviewing them?

 

[jmchavz]

The System is misleading and bull...
It is better to have integrity, be honest, be yourself, have manners, be polite, if interested be so, if not, then dont. But PLEEZE forget the games.

What games, OCTOBERPUMPINK?>>>:crackup:

And yeah, it;s only US men that have integrity, are honest, be OURSELVES, have manners, well I cant say that i'm polite ( NICE )

By the way? are you hot o not?

 

[SharinganUser]

So, I'm way behind the times - I'm respondng to a post in 2003.
I am appalled by this advice to men, particulary about the Smooch test on the first date.
And being hard to get ect.

First of all I, and I do not know how many other women, use the first date to simply establish character and to discern if there are common values and interests to see the guy again. This usually does not include a Smooch on the lips. It may include some affection or affectionate gestures if the guy's character is good and you beleive you have enough common interests and values to proceed.
Playing hard to get is a woman's perogitive - not a man's. He should not be too anxious, that is correct and bestowing gifts and flowers on the first date makes him look desparate or manipulative, but the other advice is bogus.

If these guys did this with me I would never see them again. If they are playing hard to get what the hell am I suppose to do???? Men are now, have always been and always will be in the power position. The small amount of power women have is to be discerning, discriminating and put a high value on themselves so that they are not used, abused or devalued.

Men have other issues but it is not being used, abused or devalued.

The System is misleading and bull...
It is better to have integrity, be honest, be yourself, have manners, be polite, if interested be so, if not, then dont. But PLEEZE forget the games.

Are you mentally challenged? I don't see how you can possibly be responding to a random post that was made over 5 years ago!! What are seriously trying to accomplish by posting this crap? Most of the guys here are reformed Average Frustrate Chumps, that were turned down over and over by self deluded women such as yourself, because they were "being honest, polite and had manners, and never played games"

Then after they got turned down enough by women who in retrospect weren't even worth it, they came here and learned how to weed out all the deluded man haters like you.

If any man who has the misfortune of actually getting fooled into going on a date with you, why should he do anything for you, if you are just going to waste everyone's time playing games that you yourself don't want played on you.


Now for the most hilarious part of your post,

If these guys did this with me I would never see them again. If they are playing hard to get what the hell am I suppose to do????

If this actually happened I would tell the guy he dodged a bullet, because no man should end up with a woman that makes him jump through hoops but doesn't do jack **** for him.

Now let me ask you something? How is it working out for you? I bet that you are weeding out the great guys, you go complain to your gf's while watching Oprah, get frustrated and go to the bar to reaffirm your delusions by getting free drinks, until finally you end up with a half decent guy but got bored of him, and the cycle continues. Of course this whole **** cycle could be avoided if you just accepted that you are a woman you are not really in control of who you are attracted to.

Honestly women like you are ****ing pathetic, and I would never wish you on any of my worst enemies. A real man doesn't settle for some woman who is more concerned with her "power" than with the actual person they are seeing.

 

[daygameguy]

So, I'm way behind the times - I'm respondng to a post in 2003.
I am appalled by this advice to men, particulary about the Smooch test on the first date.
And being hard to get ect.

First of all I, and I do not know how many other women, use the first date to simply establish character and to discern if there are common values and interests to see the guy again. This usually does not include a Smooch on the lips. It may include some affection or affectionate gestures if the guy's character is good and you beleive you have enough common interests and values to proceed.
Playing hard to get is a woman's perogitive - not a man's. He should not be too anxious, that is correct and bestowing gifts and flowers on the first date makes him look desparate or manipulative, but the other advice is bogus.

If these guys did this with me I would never see them again. If they are playing hard to get what the hell am I suppose to do???? Men are now, have always been and always will be in the power position. The small amount of power women have is to be discerning, discriminating and put a high value on themselves so that they are not used, abused or devalued.

Men have other issues but it is not being used, abused or devalued.

The System is misleading and bull...
It is better to have integrity, be honest, be yourself, have manners, be polite, if interested be so, if not, then dont. But PLEEZE forget the games.

I understand your reaction to "playing hard to get" frame that guys use. But have you ever thought to yourself "isn't this what we GIRLS do???"... Our game is derived from the games girls play. We want to act like the 10s and be alpha which girls actually like.

The only girls who are not intrigued enough by "playing hard to get" frame, are the less hot ones. And we know how to calibrate our game according to hotness levels.

:cheer: Men 1 Vs Women 0. :cheer:​

PS: no hate intended - i love women - they are absolute cuties if put them in that frame by being alpha.

 

[SharinganUser]

Guess we scared her off.

Men 2 Vs Women 0.