"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Doc Love is a Pimp

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Why do so many people hate on Doc Love? I think his 'system' is actually some of the best dating advice available. It's almost exactly like Anti-Dump's 'Machine', and in fact, anti-dump and Pook both have used examples straight out of doc love's book when explaining how they deal with women.

What do you guys think?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Doc love to me is uber lame

I use to read his articles on Askmen.com all the time, when I was a member there back in 08' in every article he says something to the effect of buying "The system" (like all the other guru's) then he flames his followers for not using his "system" the correct way. The funny part is, if the System works, then why do so many of his followers write him, having problems with it?

and who da fcuk asks a chick for her home number? I have had a cell phone for the last 5 years, in that span I have talked to tons of chicks and 95% use their cell phone as both their home phone as well.


PEace
 

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His articles have helped me a lot and I found them more useful than his book. As Doc says on his website "you'll never be confused again." A lot of the terminology used on this site comes straight out of his book. If you follow his principles you will always be in control by bottom lining and the reality factor (accepting the situation for what it is and not what your ego wants it to be) and will be easily able to walk away from any deal. You will never get taken for a ride again.


If you want to read a good thread about putting the system into action you should read this thread by 2nd Tour http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16725

Now the criticism,

I prefer Anti-Dump's Machine to his system even though the Machine is a near carbon copy of Doc's book. Doc's book is full of spelling and grammar errors and is hard to follow because he puts all his techniques into a dictionary format. It's really not a "system" at all. The Machine is a pure system.


A lot of the advice in Doc's book is outdated. It was obviously written in the early nineties and hasn't been updated since. He advices men to ask women for phone numbers and he says not to leave messages. In his system he never takes into account things like cell phones or caller ID.
 

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Dust 2 Dust said:
His articles have helped me a lot and I found them more useful than his book. As Doc says on his website "you'll never be confused again." A lot of the terminology used on this site comes straight out of his book. If you follow his principles you will always be in control by bottom lining and the reality factor (accepting the situation for what it is and not what your ego wants it to be) and will be easily able to walk away from any deal. You will never get taken for a ride again.


If you want to read a good thread about putting the system into action you should read this thread by 2nd Tour http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16725

Now the criticism,

I prefer Anti-Dump's Machine to his system even though the Machine is a near carbon copy of Doc's book. Doc's book is full of spelling and grammar errors and is hard to follow because he puts all his techniques into a dictionary format. It's really not a "system" at all. The Machine is a pure system.


A lot of the advice in Doc's book is outdated. It was obviously written in the early nineties and hasn't been updated since. He advices men to ask women for phone numbers and he says not to leave messages. In his system he never takes into account things like cell phones or caller ID.

If it's outdated then why not updated for the current generation?
Technology has changed, social dynamics have changed

peace
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Solomon said:
Doc love to me is uber lame

I use to read his articles on Askmen.com all the time, when I was a member there back in 08' in every article he says something to the effect of buying "The system" (like all the other guru's) then he flames his followers for not using his "system" the correct way. The funny part is, if the System works, then why do so many of his followers write him, having problems with it?

and who da fcuk asks a chick for her home number? I have had a cell phone for the last 5 years, in that span I have talked to tons of chicks and 95% use their cell phone as both their home phone as well.

PEace
Exactly. There's nothing in his book (or any book, really) that you can't find for free on the internet. Paying for a book can merely save you a bit of time. And there are better books than his "System."

His posts don't have a lot of substance, in fact, in every paragraph he finds a way to rave about how good his system is. On the other hand, David DeAngelo (for example) is the opposite.
 

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Oh my lord, who cares? More nerd talk.
 

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I haven't read Doc Love's stuff apart from bits & pieces that people quote here & there. However, if it's similar to Anti-Dump's Machine then it's no wonder why so many people don't get it.

Anti-Dump's Machine is about finding a woman with high interest level for a serious relationship. That's all it does. It is not like any other system or method out there that usually is about getting laid. Most guys on seduction forums are only there to learn how to get laid regularly. For them, Anti-Dump's Machine or Doc Love's system is the wrong tool.

Anti-Dump's Machine requires you to go through a lot of women and ruthlessly weeds out the ones who are incompatible and/or have a low interest level in you. Most guys don't have the balls to do this. As soon as they detect some interest, they cling on to it in the hope of getting some action.

Keep in mind that Anti-Dump and Doc Love are older guys who were divorced when they wrote up their systems. Their target audience were older guys who've already been there done that, but want to find compatible women for a relationship, NOT young bucks who just want to go out there spreading their seeds.

Personally I'm both playing the field as well as keeping my options open for a potential relationship if I meet a qualified candidate, so while I use Anti-Dump's Machine to weed out girls that aren't compatible for a LTR, I do use my other game skills to get action. But once a girl gets a "No" from the Machine, I do not pursue any relationship with her.
 
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