Do you think women give men bad dating advice on purpose?

[Zimbabwe]

I feel like they just only understand their own perspective of passive attraction. Their role is to look pretty and make themselves available. So when they say to just be yourself and the right person will come along it's because it's a valid strategy for women. But we are not women. They can afford to be passive because men are active in demonstrating attraction.

Meaning if you're a guy who is passive, and most women are passive, you're gonna be very alone, for a long time... Until you maybe luck out when you meet that rare proactive woman. It's backwards, and doesn't work. It's based on women's ignorance of the male experience and that's why you should never take their advice. You should always look to see what successful men are doing and figure out why it works.

The problem is that girls don't have a clue. If they want a guy they can just look at him and say take me home and her seduction is over. Why would you ever ask someone spoiled like that? It is like asking the crown prince for advice on how to get rich.

 

[Robert28]

“Just be yourself”. If I had a dime for every woman that’s ever said that I’d make Jeff Bezos look poor.

 

[Jack22]

Think of it like this, who are you more likely to ask for business advice, a self made man who grew his company to the point where it can be featured on the NASDAQ, or his grandson who had everything handed to him on a silver spoon?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Not necessarily, men give terrible advice too. The issue is that dating advice is pretty much relative to the individual and not the collective group.

 

[Zimbabwe]

the best way to understand this is - "Would you ask a fish for advice on how to catch fish?"

Of course women are going to give men sh1t advice. Think about it logically.

You have to see male/female dynamics for what they really are - predator and victim.

Also if you ask women what they want they give answers like Nice,honest and Trustworthy

But if you have a look at their dating history, it tells a very different story.

Think of it like this, who are you more likely to ask for business advice, a self made man who grew his company to the point where it can be featured on the NASDAQ, or his grandson who had everything handed to him on a silver spoon?

Funny you mention that, i always laugh when i see someone like Bill gates who started off rich write a book on "how to get rich"

 

[EyeBRollin]

No, women do not give bad advice intentionally. They just don’t know how the world works.

 

[Robert28]

Simps give terrible advice because they are simps.

Evil dudes give bad advice to nuke their competition (this is currently what the top men in the world have done with Feminism etc). "Women need to be respected, listened to, understood, given equal share" - this is all an example of clever, evil men giving their competition bad advice on purpose.

I’ve simped before. I’ve done some cringy simp stuff in my life that I’m ashamed of. The difference is I know what I did and how to hopefully fix it and never do it again. I’ve done stuff that would make simps cringe but I have enough self awareness and I’m constantly working on myself and trying to up my game. It pays off too.

 

[Robert28]

No, women do not give bad advice intentionally. They just don’t know how the world works.

I quit believing bad stuff just happened to women out of bad luck a long time ago. Sometimes you just have to accept that people make their own choices and have to have responsibility and own up to the choices they make.

 

[Velasco]

Their role is to look pretty and make themselves available

This is what attractive men do as well. We lean against the bar holding our drink scanning aimlessly. You are sending a signal to the girls who are dtf that you are available. Therefore because it's now a little bit less risky for them (she knows now that you are available. But she doesn't know if you are attracted to her. Hence why she'll put herself in your view/smile at you or she'll just assume you like her cuz she may have caught you looking at her/or thinks she's hot enough for you). You can do what @In2theGame game does here and see if you get the same results (obvi your results may vary):

How often Do Women Approach You in The Bar/Nightclub?

Never ever

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you maybe luck out when you meet that rare proactive woman

Not really that rare if you put yourself in an environment where it's not weird for girls to approach you for sex.

 

[logicallefty]

He\_\_ yeah women give men bad dating advise in purpose. This comes from a deeply rooted struggle inside a woman's head. In her head, there are the MEN WHO SHE THINKS SHE SHOULD BE ATTRACTED TO vs THE MEN WHO SHE ACTUALLY IS ATTRACTED TO.

The "should be attracted to" men are the nice guys, the gentlemen, the money makers, the men that her family would be proud of to see her bring to Christmas dinner.

The "actually attracted to" men are the Chads, the bad boys, the men who soak the \|/ag, but wouldn't impress the family.

Subconciously women give dating advise based on the "should be attracted to" criteria in men because they are ashamed of themselves for being attracted to the "actually attracted to" ones. But they can't help it.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

I feel like they just only understand their own perspective of passive attraction. Their role is to look pretty and make themselves available. So when they say to just be yourself and the right person will come along it's because it's a valid strategy for women. But we are not women. They can afford to be passive because men are active in demonstrating attraction.

Meaning if you're a guy who is passive, and most women are passive, you're gonna be very alone, for a long time... Until you maybe luck out when you meet that rare proactive woman. It's backwards, and doesn't work. It's based on women's ignorance of the male experience and that's why you should never take their advice. You should always look to see what successful men are doing and figure out why it works.

The problem is that girls don't have a clue. If they want a guy they can just look at him and say take me home and her seduction is over. Why would you ever ask someone spoiled like that? It is like asking the crown prince for advice on how to get rich.

Either consciously or unconsciously, yes. There are some worse than others but generally speaking, their advice (or anyone's advice for that matter) will be biased and limited/conditioned to their own experiences and understanding.


Modern Man Advice

 

[Zimbabwe]

Not really that rare if you put yourself in an environment where it's not weird for girls to approach you for sex.

Nobody here would need to learn game if this happened often enough, outside of bars and clubs how often have you been approached? I bet you can count the number of times on one hand.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Simps give terrible advice because they are simps.

Evil dudes give bad advice to nuke their competition (this is currently what the top men in the world have done with Feminism etc). "Women need to be respected, listened to, understood, given equal share" - this is all an example of clever, evil men giving their competition bad advice on purpose.

I mean I could give you advice that works for me, but may not work for you

 

[Velasco]

outside of bars and clubs how often have you been approached? I bet you can count the number of times on one hand.

During the day. A girl that I've never met before (and we share no mutuals) coming up to me and being like, "heyyyy " Dunno can't recall something like that.

However outside of bars, this did happen to me while I was in high school/college. Because I was in an environment where it wouldn't be weird for girls to come up to me.

This guy had a good thread on it with regards to environments (see the comments below his about bars/church)

I also saw this other thread related to his comments regarding "nobody does anything anymore other than watch videos and play video games in their rooms"