"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Do you think these girls are hot?

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They were talking about this video on the news yesterday. I remember you guys were pretty critical of the British woman who wrote the column complaining about the problems of being beautiful. These girls are younger, so I was wondering if they might meet up to the high standards of SoSuave. Do you think these girls are hot, or at least attractive?

I think the dark haired one is cute at least, not so sure about the blonde.
Be aware I can't be responsible for what watching this does to your brain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HeE6NWmDE

By the way, how old do you think these girls are? I hope they're not 15 or something.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Um. These girls look like theyre 14. Is this a serious thread?
 

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Post the article you're referring to. If it's the one I think it is, the author was delusional thinking she's a "hawt chick". At best she was a 6 IMO.
 

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zekko said:
They were talking about this video on the news yesterday. I remember you guys were pretty critical of the British woman who wrote the column complaining about the problems of being beautiful. These girls are younger, so I was wondering if they might meet up to the high standards of SoSuave. Do you think these girls are hot, or at least attractive?

I think the dark haired one is cute at least, not so sure about the blonde.
Be aware I can't be responsible for what watching this does to your brain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HeE6NWmDE

By the way, how old do you think these girls are? I hope they're not 15 or something.

They are clearly still in high school, i live in a colleg town and they'd have a hard time just passing as freshmen if they went here.
 

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Nutz said:
Post the article you're referring to. If it's the one I think it is, the author was delusional thinking she's a "hawt chick". At best she was a 6 IMO.
I'm sure it's the article you were thinking of.
I thought she was a 6 also. Certainly not exceptional. Most people here thought she was a complete dog. But I thought she was attractive enough, or more specifically, slim enough for her age (41), to be hated on by other women. Here's a link to the thread, there's a link to the article within:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=193232

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They are clearly still in high school
Well damn, I can't tell. Gimme a break, I'm 51. Everybody under 30 looks like they're in high school to me.
Seriously, it's a strange side effect of being this old. Everybody else starts to look really young.
They look like the kind of girls Mystery use to chase around to me.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Well damn, I can't tell. Gimme a break, I'm 51. Everybody under 30 looks like they're in high school to me.
Honestly.. they are pretty cute. to me at least. i would give both 7-7.5's.

but they aren't exotic enough to be 8's. to me to be an 8 or above you hve to have very unique features or exotic features.

they are very cute but i see literally 50 of them if i go to the mall here in LA in the food court.
 

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They look like your typical college girls. They look to be 8's to me. I highly doubt they'll look anywhere near as attractive without dolling themselves up. On top of that they're annoying. That 41 year old on the other hand... who told her she's hot? I don't know how much you'd have to pay me to even consider touching that.
 

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backbreaker said:
Honestly.. they are pretty cute. to me at least. i would give both 7-7.5's.

but they aren't exotic enough to be 8's. to me to be an 8 or above you hve to have very unique features or exotic features.

they are very cute but i see literally 50 of them if i go to the mall here in LA in the food court.
Agreed on all the above. They're pretty typical looking cute white girls that you see all over the place in So-Cal.

EDIT: The fact that they evidently think they are "hot" (instead of cute) just goes to show how warped girl's self-estimation is these days, which is something we talk about a lot these days. And you know why? I guarantee each one of these broads has quite a few orbiters constantly buoying up there inflated self-estimate. A vicious cycle indeed.
 

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The fact that they evidently think they are "hot" (instead of cute) just goes to show how warped girl's self-estimation is these days, which is something we talk about a lot these days. And you know why? I guarantee each one of these broads has quite a few orbiters constantly buoying up there inflated self-estimate. A vicious cycle indeed.
Guys here hate that girls have options, but it's just the way it is. You can say these girls self-estimate is overinflated, but if they can gather that many orbiters, then that probably does reflect their actual dating market value.

I know guys on SoSuave tend to minimize and criticize any girl's looks. But
even if you say these girls are only average (for their age), if they know how to work it a bit and have some "game", there's little doubt they can have guys all over them. If they really have all these orbiters, I'd say their self estimate isn't all that warped.

It's like complaining about a pro athlete's salary. If that's what the market will bear, it doesn't do much good to complain about it. The guy's going to get his money anyway. Similarly, a girl who keeps her figure is going to have her options with the opposite sex. It's just the way it is.

Everyone here wants to blame it all on the AFCs, but the PUA types want to bang the girl just as much as the chode does. So I've always thought that "blame the AFCs" idea was more than a little disingenuous. Most of the time what guys here are really saying is "I wish those AFCs would get out of the way so I could have my shot at her". You're all more alike than you'd care to admit. To paraphrase a popular saying: Don't hate the AFCs, hate the game.
 

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zekko said:
Guys here hate that girls have options, but it's just the way it is. You can say these girls self-estimate is overinflated, but if they can gather that many orbiters, then that probably does reflect their actual dating market value.

I know guys on SoSuave tend to minimize and criticize any girl's looks. But
even if you say these girls are only average (for their age), if they know how to work it a bit and have some "game", there's little doubt they can have guys all over them. If they really have all these orbiters, I'd say their self estimate isn't all that warped.

It's like complaining about a pro athlete's salary. If that's what the market will bear, it doesn't do much good to complain about it. The guy's going to get his money anyway. Similarly, a girl who keeps her figure is going to have her options with the opposite sex. It's just the way it is.

Everyone here wants to blame it all on the AFCs, but the PUA types want to bang the girl just as much as the chode does. So I've always thought that "blame the AFCs" idea was more than a little disingenuous. Most of the time what guys here are really saying is "I wish those AFCs would get out of the way so I could have my shot at her". You're all more alike than you'd care to admit. To paraphrase a popular saying: Don't hate the AFCs, hate the game.
while i understand the point you are trying to make, the example is way off.

the NBA player's salary is determined, because NBA players are the best athletes in the world. There aren't very many 7'0 guys who are extremely coordinated and cat quick with basketball skills. there might be 50-60 in the entire world. Thus, that's why NBA players are the best paid athletes in the world on avg.

These broads on the other hand, they aren't that unique. Even as far as hot girls go they are pretty plan janeish. white girl blue eyes blond hair, decent body, doesn't work out, probably has nothing interesting about her whatsoever. i see 50 to 100 of those every time i go somewhere in LA.

The problem here, is that the guys are putting ***** on the pediastool and because of that, the guys are inflating the price o value of ***** themselves, even when there really isn't a shortage of good hot young ***** out there. The guys who lack game, will cling to any cute girl or attractive girl who pays him the slightest bit of attention, thus making her feel like she is worth more than she really is. It's not that there is a shortage of hot women.

in short, this is a male perception problem, not a unique quality / market driven problem
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Until we get back to THIS being a standard, negotiable option, plentiful and cheap (sans syphillis, etc) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tce-THLUE we will continue to see legions of overinflated 7-8 chicks thinking they are 10s with pathetic armies of orbiters to validate them.
 

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At first I was like "Meh. Cute and doable but definitely not hot."

And they opened their mouths and started singing. Shivers went down my spine, which temporarily numbed my penis and prevented it from engaging in any erectile activities.
 

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DJDamage, I like your example.

backbreaker said:
These broads on the other hand, they aren't that unique. Even as far as hot girls go they are pretty plan janeish. white girl blue eyes blond hair, decent body, doesn't work out, probably has nothing interesting about her whatsoever. i see 50 to 100 of those every time i go somewhere in LA.
I agree the girls aren't that unique, but there are a lot of guys out there. And not everyone lives in LA. Here in the midwest, there's no need to keep your beach body year round. I've watched countless genuinely hot girls turn into blimps at a very young age.

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The guys who lack game, will cling to any cute girl or attractive girl who pays him the slightest bit of attention, thus making her feel like she is worth more than she really is. It's not that there is a shortage of hot women.
The girls who can keep themselves attractive will get the orbiters, plus have the PUAs hitting on them. Also, it's part of girls' "game" to mete out enough attention to the less experienced guys to keep them around.

Again, not everyone lives in LA. I've never seen a fat girl with orbiters. If a girl is attractive, she's going to have dating value and options. No matter how "common" you may say they are. Yes, she's going to have AFCs putting her on pedestals, but she's also going to have PUAs hitting on her.

The pickup gurus seem to be putting forth a lifestyle where you pick up a new girl every week. They're going to need a lot of women to go through at that rate.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yes.

The analogy would've worked if it was Heidi Klum or someone in the video because that level of physical attractiveness is maybe about as rare (relatively speaking) as a guy with NBA-level talent.

In fact the whole analogy is pretty workable, but the sexual marketplace has something the economic one does not:

ONEITIS.

99% percent of people are not insanely dedicated to a brand of product that they absolutely can't have. If Ford suddenly had a shortage of cars, and it lasted (so the product was effectively unobtainable) then even the people that really wanted the Ford will buy another car pretty quick. They aren't going to start walking.

However, AFCs in the form of orbiters continue to "pay" for the product (via attention and ego-validation, the currency accepted by females in the SMP) for a long, long time without procuring ownership or any benefit of said product. This is where the economic capitalism model fails for the SMP. And thus, yes: I do blame the AFCs because they are suckers and are contributing to the decline of western civilization.

The End.
 

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DJDamage said:
They are cute girls but they are typical, I wouldn't stop and turn around to look again if I passed them on the street.

This one on the other hand is a hottie:

http://cdn.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kelly_brook_bikini_blog_april_16_2012_3-760x988.jpg
Hank Moody gets more a$$ than a toilet seat DJ!! This was perfect!! Why the hell did you NOT make this a stand alone thread instead of hijacking a little underage, land your a$$ under the jail, are these girls hot thread???

YOUR link was good man!!!!
 

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I dont think the girls are hot at all, cute but plain, their looks will only deteriorate IMO.
Blond maybe 6 - 6/10, brunette, 5.5 - 6/10

had to turn the sound off, my ears were offended
 
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