Do you think the pre-mogul Bill Gates did not ascend because he could not HeightMog like his father?

[plumber]

And no not Gamisch. Again, I dont make up these accusations. I just hear detailed stories and IF these are somehwat true..i would like to see child molestes in jail. Dont you? Did
you read the articles ?

Exactly. Your makeing the point. Most men would like to see a man doing such things punished. Me also. It hits me deep in the mind and body. Brings out inner rage and a primal level. Part of the issue is many men are on the knife edge of doing it themselves, but control and do not.

This accusation goes past our logic layer and directly to emotional triggers. Its designed to do that.

All through time this is one of the best political topics to target with. Because it skips logic. No need to prove if we get an emotional hook set.

Red Pill is not just about women, its about things men do.

Just for a moment think.... how powerful this accusation is regardless if it can ever be proven.

 

[Gamisch]

Show me where in the 3million page dump where it says he raped a 13yo? I know facts are no fun. And no Epstein blackmail made up crap.

His name in the newly released batch of 3 million pages is mentioned 38.000 times, including accusations of gRape and SA. I just posted a snippet from an article from 5 days ago. .
Facts are indeed no fun, especially these facts. Horrible stories.

By the way; it's not just about him. There are many more people involved yet only one convicted. You should inform yooutself onbhow Miss maxwell is replaced to a luxury prison ,having all kinds of crazy privileges. Like a puppy in prison..wonder why.

 

[Aguirre]

To the both of you: I personally can't relate to blindly supporting ANYONE, let alone politicians. Newsflash: politicians are oftentimes corrupt and scammers..so to me this whole "dying on a hill" for a potential child molester..it's alien. Can't relate one bit. Idgaf who it is I'd like to see people pay for their sins.



Let's investigate ( thoroughly) and let the truth prevail....it ain't no rocket science

And no not Gamisch. Again, I dont make up these accusations. I just hear detailed stories and IF these are somehwat true..i would like to see child molestes in jail. Dont you? Did
you read the articles ?

I do expect an answer by the way.


Wrong. Did you even follow the news lately? And I don't mean that one channel or that one redpiller who spins everything. I mean multiple news sources? Looks like you did not.

Blind support? It’s called discernment. You seem to get triggered easily and resort to a primitive knee jerk emotionalism. You meltdown faster than a snowflake in spring. Consider the trivium if you don’t know how to do research. It’s a basic concept that I’m sure you can even understand and it will help you with your discernment deficiency.

I already answered you regarding to pedo claims about Trump and stated that the only reason you even aware of these files in the first place is because of Trump and his campaign. You’re outraged today about stuff you seem to oblivious to the history of.

You keep falling for clown ops. I bet you fell for Russian collusion, pee pee dossier and the other ridiculous debunked psyops.

But how do you red pill masses? You have to engage in counter ops, Sun Tzu etc. If Trump would have gone after the Clintons and Epstein in 2017 the media would spin it and say he’s just going after his critics and opposition like a dictator. Trump’s admin has been full of fake feuds (Bannon, Musk etc) and distraction campaigns — but welcome to 5G warfare.

The media had no interest in Epstein until a few years ago and normies assumed it was conspiracy theory. Trump suddenly appears to reverse his stance and dismisses them as a hoax as if he’s got something to hide. Musk claims Trump doesn’t want to release them because he’s in them. Suddenly democrats and normies and media demand the files be released. Now everyone and their dog are beginning to understand how the world works, how it has worked for a long time; people are being redpilled in live time and awake, not woke on blue pills.

I am pro death penalty and would support the death penalty for child grapers. But you can’t just run on hearsay and gossip.

So what if Trump’s name comes up a zillion times in the Epstein files — do you honestly believe that every mention of Trump is an FBI report based on a accusation?

I bet the investigation is ongoing. You don’t want to blow your wad when you are playing the RICO Suave trump card.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Oh the hysterics and fearmongering! The alt-right pipeline... is it still 2017? You keep falling for clown ops.

You're honestly going to tell me that a bunch of online 'influencers' with myriad different views and zero power are a bigger threat to the world than the usual war mongering neo-con republicans?

Is Fuentes gay? Isn't Milo? I heard that Candace Owens believes in time travel... I'm so terrified.

You know the red pill manosphere movement is considered to be a part of this 'problem' too...

The only pipeline that anyone tapped into is when you went down the rabbithole but autistically took the expression too literally and ended up with a serious case of sh!td!ck when you rogered that rabbit!

You get so triggered and excited that you lose control and stop making sense.

Drop the chalupa, mang.

"RABBIT?!" lol

 

[Aguirre]

"RABBIT?!" lol

…and to think he left you for roadkill. Better get started on that FBI report.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

On the subject of the thread... Ahem. I'm sure that could be a fair take on a 'pre revenge of the nerds' story! I had no idea how tall/short he is. I just think "oh yeah, the Microsoft guy." Is it all over for 'Pre-mogul cels?'

***DISCLAIMER! I'm not taking a 'side' on this, but rather putting my .02 into what some misnomers are when it comes to arguments, facts, evidence, proof and burden of proof.***

The important question to ask is "Where does the burden of proof lie?" My moniker includes "Rabbit." Does this mean I am beyond all reasonable doubt a Rabbit? I'll use science! Taxonomy and phylogenetics to be precise. I'll just say "Yes! Rabbits and Humans are both eukaryotes! Therefore we're the same! Therefore I'm a Rabbit!" All the defense has to say is, "Well, you know that pine trees are also eukaryotes, right?"

The important definitions to remember are as follows. "Facts and evidence can't prove anything on their own. Two things may be true at the same time." "The truth is what the facts are." "A fact must be objectively verifiable." "Eyewitness testimony is one of the weakest forms of evidence. Memory is an active process that fills in gaps, meaning it changes over time and can be influenced by information learned after the event. Leading questions from police or attorneys, as well as suggestive lineups, can alter a witness's memory. High-stress situations, such as witnessing a crime with a weapon, can narrow a person's focus, causing them to miss other details. A witness's confidence in their testimony can increase after receiving positive feedback, even if their memory of the event is inaccurate." That last sentence is highly represented and observable in many an SJW 'cause du jour.'

In conclusion, proof in a court of law could be defined as thus. "Proof is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence which is positively indicative of, and/or exclusively concordant with one claim/explanation over any other beyond a reasonable doubt." Why do trials take so long even when the case seems "SOOO OBVIOUS" and there actually IS a mountain of evidence against the accused? This is why. We're on dangerous grounds if we operate justice on "He started it" or "Just look what she was wearing!"

If someone accuses me of anything, calls me some trendy insult or name without mentioning any details I can dismiss it. "That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence" aka "I know you are, but what am I?" Or perhaps an oldie but goodie, "When did you stop b3ating your w1fe?" / "Stop smoking cr@ck?" or a modern favorite "N@ZI!" Show me that I am or shove off.

I'm not an attorney or prosecutor, I just know a bit about what is essential to having a credible/valid case. This is mostly due to me being very familiar with how a court of law (especially federal courts in America) can and does impact the gatekeeping of scientific consensus. Obviously, science and criminal accusations aren't the same. In either pursuit, a claimant has the burden of proof. In either pursuit, the more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence must be to support that claim.

 

[Aguirre]

***DISCLAIMER! I'm not taking a 'side' on this, but rather putting my .02 into what some misnomers are when it comes to arguments, facts, evidence, proof and burden of proof.***

The important question to ask is "Where does the burden of proof lie?" My moniker includes "Rabbit." Does this mean I am beyond all reasonable doubt a Rabbit? I'll use science! Taxonomy and phylogenetics to be precise. I'll just say "Yes! Rabbits and Humans are both eukaryotes! Therefore we're the same! Therefore I'm a Rabbit!" All the defense has to say is, "Well, you know that pine trees are also eukaryotes, right?"

The important definitions to remember are as follows. "Facts and evidence can't prove anything on their own. Two things may be true at the same time." "The truth is what the facts are." "A fact must be objectively verifiable." "Eyewitness testimony is one of the weakest forms of evidence. Memory is an active process that fills in gaps, meaning it changes over time and can be influenced by information learned after the event. Leading questions from police or attorneys, as well as suggestive lineups, can alter a witness's memory. High-stress situations, such as witnessing a crime with a weapon, can narrow a person's focus, causing them to miss other details. A witness's confidence in their testimony can increase after receiving positive feedback, even if their memory of the event is inaccurate." That last sentence is highly represented and observable in many an SJW 'cause du jour.'

In conclusion, proof in a court of law could be defined as thus. "Proof is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence which is positively indicative of, and/or exclusively concordant with one claim/explanation over any other beyond a reasonable doubt." Why do trials take so long even when the case seems "SOOO OBVIOUS" and there actually IS a mountain of evidence against the accused? This is why. We're on dangerous grounds if we operate justice on "He started it" or "Just look what she was wearing!"

If someone accuses me of anything, calls me some trendy insult or name without mentioning any details I can dismiss it. "That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence" aka "I know you are, but what am I?" Or perhaps an oldie but goodie, "When did you stop b3ating your w1fe?" / "Stop smoking cr@ck?" or a modern favorite "N@ZI!" Show me that I am or shove off.

I'm not an attorney or prosecutor, I just know a bit about what is essential to having a credible/valid case. This is mostly due to me being very familiar with how a court of law (especially federal courts in America) can and does impact the gatekeeping of scientific consensus. Obviously, science and criminal accusations aren't the same. In either pursuit, a claimant has the burden of proof. In either pursuit, the more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence must be to support that claim.

I agree, but only because you’re a rabbit can I trust that you’re not just splitting hares…

 

[MatureDJ]

his beastly wife

YIKES!

 

[Gamisch]

Blind support? It’s called discernment. You seem to get triggered easily and resort to a primitive knee jerk emotionalism. You meltdown faster than a snowflake in spring. Consider the trivium if you don’t know how to do research. It’s a basic concept that I’m sure you can even understand and it will help you with your discernment deficiency.

I already answered you regarding to pedo claims about Trump and stated that the only reason you even aware of these files in the first place is because of Trump and his campaign. You’re outraged today about stuff you seem to oblivious to the history of.

You keep falling for clown ops. I bet you fell for Russian collusion, pee pee dossier and the other ridiculous debunked psyops.

But how do you red pill masses? You have to engage in counter ops, Sun Tzu etc. If Trump would have gone after the Clintons and Epstein in 2017 the media would spin it and say he’s just going after his critics and opposition like a dictator. Trump’s admin has been full of fake feuds (Bannon, Musk etc) and distraction campaigns — but welcome to 5G warfare.

The media had no interest in Epstein until a few years ago and normies assumed it was conspiracy theory. Trump suddenly appears to reverse his stance and dismisses them as a hoax as if he’s got something to hide. Musk claims Trump doesn’t want to release them because he’s in them. Suddenly democrats and normies and media demand the files be released. Now everyone and their dog are beginning to understand how the world works, how it has worked for a long time; people are being redpilled in live time and awake, not woke on blue pills.

I am pro death penalty and would support the death penalty for child grapers. But you can’t just run on hearsay and gossip.

So what if Trump’s name comes up a zillion times in the Epstein files — do you honestly believe that every mention of Trump is an FBI report based on a accusation?

I bet the investigation is ongoing. You don’t want to blow your wad when you are playing the RICO Suave trump card.

I get triggered easily? Yeah right, it's me who worships a complete stranger who won't piss on fire to save neither you nor me.

Yeah you are so tough that you don't get moved hearing these allegations like raping 12 y.o girls after taking them hostage. I am such a weak man...


Typical snowflske behavior to condemn something like raping children.

Real men like you worship the 80 y.o sh1t diaper child molester

I wonder why a tough man like you is discussing politics on a seduction forum. A REAL MAN like you should be drowning in p00sy.

The narrative has shifted again to defend the dear cult leader? Real men like child rapist!!! Snowflakes call it out.. gotcha

"I was boooooooorn in the u azz eeeeey"

 

[Gamisch]

 

[Slowhandluke]

YIKES!

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She used to be a hot, female nerd.. but like so many women. The wall is undefeated. Then of course, she turned on her ex. No matter how hot a women is, she will likely turn unattractive.

 

[Gamisch]

Imagine being proud and defendig this from a homie..but no were talking about the fecking president. Again posted TODAY

And yet I need to explain why this behaviour is despicable. I need to explain why dude is a lunatic. .............

But hey I get it...yall are extremely frustrated and filled with hatred. So now FINALLY someone can say and so these things unpunished, setting an example for the youth ( and you manchilds) to follow. Make America great again huh??

Imo humble opinion this is embarrassing. But according to this thread this is " the new cool".

Another beyond embarrassing moment. Speechless.

@Aguirre can you please chime in and let me know how we're spinning this? I have to admit it is kinda fascinating to learn the thought process behind his supporters, especially as a non Murican.

 

[Aguirre]

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Imagine being proud and defendig this from a homie..but no were talking about the fecking president. Again posted TODAY

And yet I need to explain why this behaviour is despicable. I need to explain why dude is a lunatic. .............

But hey I get it...yall are extremely frustrated and filled with hatred. So now FINALLY someone can say and so these things unpunished, setting an example for the youth ( and you manchilds) to follow. Make America great again huh??

Imo humble opinion this is embarrassing. But according to this thread this is " the new cool".

Another beyond embarrassing moment. Speechless.

You’re simping hard for big Mike and bath house Barry.

I get triggered easily? Yeah right, it's me who worships a complete stranger who won't piss on fire to save neither you nor me.

Yeah you are so tough that you don't get moved hearing these allegations like raping 12 y.o girls after taking them hostage. I am such a weak man...


Typical snowflske behavior to condemn something like raping children.

Real men like you worship the 80 y.o sh1t diaper child molester

I wonder why a tough man like you is discussing politics on a seduction forum. A REAL MAN like you should be drowning in p00sy.

The narrative has shifted again to defend the dear cult leader? Real men like child rapist!!! Snowflakes call it out.. gotcha

"I was boooooooorn in the u azz eeeeey" View attachment 15135
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Average frustrated chump in a sh!thole country, we get it. You hate America. You’d rather live in a banana republic where people are guilty until proven innocent.

You can’t help it but talk politics on a seduction forum so I’m not sure what you’re crying about now.

If you can’t even handle memes from an 80 year old man, there’s no way you’re succeeding with women.

Liddle d!ck energy is all you’re fronting. I say liddle instead of little because I’m talking extra small.

 

[Aguirre]

@Aguirre can you please chime in and let me know how we're spinning this? I have to admit it is kinda fascinating to learn the thought process behind his supporters, especially as a non Murican.

Am I supposed to be offended on your behalf and then virtue signal to the entire world?

I don’t give a sh!t. I’m not a Marxist, I don’t have a victim complex. Again, this is liddle d!ck energy on your part. Have yourself a sad wank and a boohoo.

Quote this for truth: I bet two damn dirty apes would’ve done a better job than bath house Barry, Big Mike (and pedo Joe).

 

[Gamisch]

You’re simping hard for big Mike and bath house Barry.


Average frustrated chump in a sh!thole country, we get it. You hate America. You’d rather live in a banana republic where people are guilty until proven innocent.

You can’t help it but talk politics on a seduction forum so I’m not sure what you’re crying about now.

If you can’t even handle memes from an 80 year old man, there’s no way you’re succeeding with women.

Liddle d!ck energy is all you’re fronting. I say liddle instead of little because I’m talking extra small.

Shytehole country? Lol.

Thanks for your reply. Fascinating to see how it actually angers YOU that I find this questionable. But the spin if I'm correct is to blame the person who is baffled by this behaviour, I get it. It's MY FAULT.

Big dlck energy = laughing this shyte away? I'm adjusting. I wanna have the same big dlck energy like you. I also wanna be selectively stupid. I bet it makes life so much easier

Ah so now it's "just an 80 y.o man posting memes" and not the leader of the free world. I'm adjusting...

Talking about banana republic; if you'd get your tongue out of this man's sh1t covered azz and look at the big picture you might've been able to ee it's actually the USA who is speed running towards a 3rd world shytehole..

Deflect redirect. I bet you'll gain some likes as well! You edge lord! Path of least resistance huh?

Now that I think about it: it's actually bytch behaviour. Seriously. Think about it. Its as feminine as it gets to be unable to say " damn okay this is perhaps a tad too much". Nope. You'll defend it no matter what just like women do. Basically your a little fat azz bytch boi and I say that more as an analysis and overall conclusion instead of an insult.

Even decent conservatives condemn this. But you..you special

And by the way Ive slept with more women than you'll be able to do in TWO lifetimes. Why? Because I have principles.

 

[Gamisch]

Am I supposed to be offended on your behalf and then virtue signal to the entire world?

I don’t give a sh!t. I’m not a Marxist, I don’t have a victim complex. Again, this is liddle d!ck energy on your part. Have yourself a sad wank and a boohoo.

Quote this for truth: I bet two damn dirty apes would’ve done a better job than bath house Barry, Big Mike (and pedo Joe).

I'm just showing what your god posted.

Why you get triggered? I have to admit I don't like this kinda behaviour from a politician or ANYONE. I would fire an employee for this.

If in your complex mind this is little d1ck behaviour then so be it. Trying to teach my kids some decency ya know...something your father clearly failed you on lol.

Perhaps they both pedos? 3 million files released, 38.000 times mentiod including grape allegations...but that's who YOU wanna be right? A child molester. that's who you look up to. No wonder women ignore you lol

 

[Slowhandluke]

I'm just showing what your god posted.

Why you get triggered? I have to admit I don't like this kinda behaviour from a politician or ANYONE. I would fire an employee for this.

If in your complex mind this is little d1ck behaviour then so be it. Trying to teach my kids some decency ya know...something your father clearly failed you on lol.

Perhaps they both pedos? 3 million files released, 38.000 times mentiod including grape allegations...but that's who YOU wanna be right? A child molester. that's who you look up to. No wonder women ignore you lol

with regard to these postings: win or lose. you ultimately will lose in the grand scheme of things. you will never be able to convince anyone here to your line of politics. you are talking in the wind. And some people say, talking in the wind while spitting.

15 years from now most likely you will think the same way. The only difference is that you would have wasted your time... not to mention our time. oh well, whatever. like a moth to a flame, I reply to these postings hahahahh

 

[Bokanovsky]

I get triggered easily? Yeah right, it's me who worships a complete stranger who won't piss on fire to save neither you nor me.

Yeah you are so tough that you don't get moved hearing these allegations like raping 12 y.o girls after taking them hostage. I am such a weak man...

Typical snowflske behavior to condemn something like raping children.

Real men like you worship the 80 y.o sh1t diaper child molester

I wonder why a tough man like you is discussing politics on a seduction forum. A REAL MAN like you should be drowning in p00sy.

The narrative has shifted again to defend the dear cult leader? Real men like child rapist!!! Snowflakes call it out.. gotcha

"I was boooooooorn in the u azz eeeeey"

Gamlisch, man, what the hell has happened to you? You used to be a pretty sensible and rational guy from what I remember of your earlier posts. This Trump stuff has really thrown you off balance. I guess this is what they mean by "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

You don't like Trump, we get it. No one says you have to like him. But take a step back and read what you wrote in this thread. You sound like a raving lunatic. It's not healthy to be this angry.

 

[Gamisch]

with regard to these postings: win or lose. you ultimately will lose in the grand scheme of things. you will never be able to convince anyone here to your line of politics. you are talking in the wind. And some people say, talking in the wind while spitting.

15 years from now most likely you will think the same way. The only difference is that you would have wasted your time... not to mention our time. oh well, whatever. like a moth to a flame, I reply to these postings hahahahh

Unfortunately we can't have a grown-ups conversation about the topic at hand.

The crazy thing is that I'm NOT the one who is political!!! I'm not even from the States!! Matter a fact: I equally despised watching Biden smell that young girls hair like I despised reading those files. I believe both parties are bad for "the people". I deteste politicians with a passion and view them as professionals gaslighters. Both sides that's is.

The only thing is ,that seemingly the manosphere is hijacked by more right leaning ideologies, thus I'm getting pushback. It okay...

In my ideal world it would be LOGICAL that we hold people in positions of power accountable.

Because absolute power corrupts absolutely.

And as I said before: each man thinks for himself but yet with a tad of compression for his fellow citizen.

So to me it's.. both disheartening AND baffling to learn how much of a team sport it is rather than..an honest assessment of what one stands for individually( because the following of let's say DT is super reactive: because he is unpredictable, and still they've already decided that EVERYTHING he does is perfectly fine. How can one always be right????) . ) unless cruelty is indeed the goal. In that case it makes even more sense that I can't relate.

My ideal political view would be to destroy the current systems and reinvent it. Salarycaps for politicians, distribution of wealth and power. No more creating of division!

That last post is just nasty work and creates hate and division amongst people that actually live, work, play sports together ,even amongst family members and or friends. I just hate this timeline and how the modern world is developing while a small % of elites reap all the benefits. We are all canon fodder and pay pigs to them at best.

 

[Gamisch]

Gamlisch, man, what the hell has happened to you? You used to be a pretty sensible and rational guy from what I remember of your earlier posts. This Trump stuff has really thrown you off balance. I guess this is what they mean by "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

You don't like Trump, we get it. No one says you have to like him. But take a step back and read what you wrote in this thread. You sound like a raving lunatic. It's not healthy to be this angry.

Bro...again I'm still the same and remember: we are here to both teach AND learn.

How am I the one Off balanced one when I'm merely asking if WE as a society want leaders that do questionable shyte? With all due respect but it seems more deranged to endlessly defend someone because....because of what exactly??? I don't care if you're the king or the cleaner: you ought to behave and control yourself so you cause no harm to others,period. I just gibe a different perspective, being both an outsider and someone who hates both the left AND the right...

deranged
/dɪˈreɪn(d)ʒd/
adjective
(of a person) wildly irrational or uncontrolled.
"a deranged gunman"

Deranged? Are you sure it isn't YOU who suffers from said symptoms?I Dgaf about no other man in this world to represent me or think FOR me. I'm a one man army. Again, I've NEVER went out of my way to defend someone I don't even know. Even when it's about religion ( raised Christian) I'll to look at it critically. Right is right amd wrong is wrong. It's quite simple...

This topic clearly opens a can of worms and I get that. But believe me: if my " childhood hero" does something stupid I WILL judge him on it. Why the feck wouldn't I????

You could ask the same to a division spreading DT. Like: " Goddanmn why did he had to post that shyte, why can't he just STFU and focus on what needs to be done?"

I'm still me bro. Nothing changed. I don't make up this hatred filled division spreading content. If anything I'd like to see everyone shine regardless of their race, skin colour, country they live in, religion ect. Life is way too short to focus on taking others down just for shytes and giggles.

My opinion.