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Do you think Sports Illustrated's collapse is due to it making the horrific decision to feature fat & tranny chicks in its famous swimsuit edition?

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SI's primary appeal was photography in general and with the internet there's less demand for them.
 

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No, I don't think that was the major problem. It wasn't good, but it's a relatively minor problem compared to other problems.

By the time the Swimsuit Issue started doing that (mid-2010s or so), it was already irrelevant in popular culture and had been since ~2000. Once more people started getting high speed internet and access to more porn online, the very tame Swimsuit Issue became less of a cultural phenomenon.

Sports Illustrated was a lot more than the Swimsuit Issue. For most of its history, Sports Illustrated published weekly, so there were 50 other issues a year about sports. Sports Illustrated was too slow to react to the internet era and didn't become an internet-focused media outlet in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Print journalism has been dying due to internet and SI did not handle that change well. ESPN.com beat them to the internet and ESPN.com made itself an internet destination faster. ESPN as a company is having problems due to people no longer subscribing to cable or satellite TV service but ESPN.com is useful.

It has difficult for a lot of the legacy print journalism publications to succeed in the internet era. This has been true for both newspapers and magazines.
 

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I agree with @SW15. Printed media started to die as soon as the internet became more prevalent. Multiple media outlets needed to adapt to the new way of doing things or face a slow death. This recent addition of land whales and trannies is a stupid last ditch effort to virtue signal. Problem is guys are the ones buying this issues and not interested in a chic with a d!ck or an obesity problem. Those issues had their day in the sun for a few years but now they can’t compete with the average thot on Instagram.
 

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Those issues had their day in the sun for a few years but now they can’t compete with the average thot on Instagram.
The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue has gotten more and more obsolete with time. I'd say around the early 2000s is when it became outdated, long before thots on Instagram were a thing. I agree with you that thots on Instagram didn't help the Swimsuit Issue but it was gone long before then. The adoption of high speed internet was the main thing that hurt Sports Illustrated and its own inability to adapt to that.

The other ~50 issues of the year covering sports were more problematic for Sports Illustrated than the Swimsuit Issue.

If we were discussing Playboy or Penthouse, then thots on Instagram would be a more relevant consideration. Playboy and Penthouse couldn't compete when enough people started getting access to high speed internet in the 2000s. While Playboy and Penthouse managed to survive VHS/DVD porn, high speed internet was the thing that made them irrelevant.
 

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The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue has gotten more and more obsolete with time. I'd say around the early 2000s is when it became outdated, long before thots on Instagram were a thing. I agree with you that thots on Instagram didn't help the Swimsuit Issue but it was gone long before then. The adoption of high speed internet was the main thing that hurt Sports Illustrated and its own inability to adapt to that.

The other ~50 issues of the year covering sports were more problematic for Sports Illustrated than the Swimsuit Issue.

If we were discussing Playboy or Penthouse, then thots on Instagram would be a more relevant consideration. Playboy and Penthouse couldn't compete when enough people started getting access to high speed internet in the 2000s. While Playboy and Penthouse managed to survive VHS/DVD porn, high speed internet was the thing that made them irrelevant.
I'll never forget in high school(early 90's), my buddies and I wanted to score Playboy's "Girls of the Big 8" edition. There was a girl from our area that was in it that we knew. You had to be 18 to purchase one and none of us were. So I thought up the idea that if I told them my sister was in it they would sell us one. Sure enough it worked. I don't know if the cashier believed my story or gave me points for being creative, either way he was laughing and we got what we wanted.

And back in the day the SI swimsuit issue was highly coveted. They had some serious hotties grace those pages. Then along came Maxim.
 

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No, I don't think that was the major problem. It wasn't good, but it's a relatively minor problem compared to other problems.

By the time the Swimsuit Issue started doing that (mid-2010s or so), it was already irrelevant in popular culture and had been since ~2000. Once more people started getting high speed internet and access to more porn online, the very tame Swimsuit Issue became less of a cultural phenomenon.

Sports Illustrated was a lot more than the Swimsuit Issue. For most of its history, Sports Illustrated published weekly, so there were 50 other issues a year about sports. Sports Illustrated was too slow to react to the internet era and didn't become an internet-focused media outlet in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Print journalism has been dying due to internet and SI did not handle that change well. ESPN.com beat them to the internet and ESPN.com made itself an internet destination faster. ESPN as a company is having problems due to people no longer subscribing to cable or satellite TV service but ESPN.com is useful.

It has difficult for a lot of the legacy print journalism publications to succeed in the internet era. This has been true for both newspapers and magazines.
I can remember a previous wave of femynists complaining about it. :rolleyes:
First published in 1964, it is credited with making the bikini, invented in 1946,[2] a legitimate piece of apparel.[3]
Feminists have expressed that "the Swimsuit Issue promotes the harmful and dehumanizing concept that women are a product for male consumption".[39]
Well, in my mind they are. :cool:
 

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If we were discussing Playboy or Penthouse, then thots on Instagram would be a more relevant consideration. Playboy and Penthouse couldn't compete when enough people started getting access to high speed internet in the 2000s. While Playboy and Penthouse managed to survive VHS/DVD porn, high speed internet was the thing that made them irrelevant.
It's quite amazing that the hypergamy zeitgeist has made Stacys all show their goodies from free so as to attract a Chad, even if a lot of Normies get to see it for free.
 

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I can remember a previous wave of femynists complaining about it. :rolleyes:


Well, in my mind they are. :cool:
What's hilarious is in the 90's all the feminists complained about Playboy and SI swimsuit edition treating women as objects. Fast forward 25+ years and the women are on Onlyfans and social media objectifying their bodies all by themselves. Lmao. Dont ever take one serious.
 

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'90s was the turning point. Sports illustrated hung off for a while dear but like playboy didn't adapt to the internet. They'll probably go online with the special issue.
 

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What's hilarious is in the 90's all the feminists complained about Playboy and SI swimsuit edition treating women as objects. Fast forward 25+ years and the women are on Onlyfans and social media objectifying their bodies all by themselves. Lmao. Dont ever take one serious.
Exactly. Back in those days, it was considered an honor and privilege to be in one of those magazine, but the ugly women decided to revolt. Fast forward to today and they objectify themselves for likes or a subscription fee. The irony is laughable.

A lot of this feminist rhetoric looks a lot like intersexual competition . You rarely see the higher SMV women complaining about their pretty privilege. It’s usually the lower SMV women complaining. Basically sour grapes because they are not getting the free attention and validation from men. ”Men don’t find me attractive so I’m going to start hating all things associated with men.” While hot Stacy is living her best life and has no complaints because she is drunk from all the perks. The blue haired feminist complaining about misogyny you wouldn’t fvck with a borrowed d!ck and she knows it. This is where I say feminism is a lot like the female version of the black pill. All men bad, I’m going to try being lesbian now.
 
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