"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do you think she did something with him?

Oddman

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The same 22yr old girl I've been into from the other thread.

One manager in our work who is about 56. He books me work and is usually a nice guy gentleman type. Well this girl lives near him and he started offering to give her rides. He's not fat or anything he's quite slim.

He would ask her to grab him coffee and stuff. I could see she was just trying to get in his good books so didn't think much of it but he didn't know her that well.

We were in his truck he was driving us and she(sat next to him) told him about a new guy she likes and the manager mocked me with him saying "he's quiet today" so I figured it was some game of hers having me there. He started being more unfriendly to me aswell.

She tried to show the manager she wasn't interested in me, and when we were all going to get into different trucks at the end she kept trying to get me to get a ride from someone else saying it would quicker for me. She moved away from me and stood by his side looking at me with this puppy dog look like she didn't want him to get jealous.

I stuck with them and he kept asking her in the truck if she was "ok" and she said "I feel sick" When I got out of the truck she looked back at me with this soft guilty look on her face like "I have to" and said to me Bye and he said nothing and there was a few others in there. Seemed weird as she friendzoned me days before this. He dropped her off last and it was late. Next day I asked her if he tried anything and she goes "He's not like thaat" in a girly voice that sounded like "He IS like that" the guy usually seems decent to me but their behavior was odd that night.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Zerro

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Dude, you have no chance of improving until you walk away from this chick.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Thundernuts

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Hey oddman, doesn't matter if this girl did something with the old fart or not, why would you even want a girl who would humiliate you like that. Im telling you right now, go no contact with this girl and DONT STOP FOR ANYTHING FOR SIX MONTHS. During that time you dont acknowledge waves you dont say hi you don't say anything if she talks about going to dinner. This ***** burnt you its time to burn her ego
 

Pimp-sicle

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Thundernuts said:
Hey oddman, doesn't matter if this girl did something with the old fart or not, why would you even want a girl who would humiliate you like that. Im telling you right now, go no contact with this girl and DONT STOP FOR ANYTHING FOR SIX MONTHS. During that time you dont acknowledge waves you dont say hi you don't say anything if she talks about going to dinner. This ***** burnt you its time to burn her ego

I have no comment on this thread; but wanted to post to tell Thundernuts that you sir might have the best user name I've seen since I first joined this board way back in 2004! LOL

Nice bro







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