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Do you think Millenial men are missing from the job market because they have gone MGTOW?

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I was reading this, and it got me interested:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ave-perplexing-hole-in-a-hot-u-s-labor-market

Ten years after the Great Recession, 25- to 34-year-old men are lagging in the workforce more than any other age and gender demographic. About 500,000 more would be punching the clock today had their employment rate returned to pre-downturn levels.
my opinion: Young men these days are looking at the age old paradigm of being a "good provider" and realizing that it's not going to help them get poontang, so what's the point? Chad is going to tap whether he has a job or not, and the non-Chads are not going to be able to tap, except in the super-beta situation of marrying a single mommie.
 

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I think a lot of this has more to do with this generation and not completely MGTOW. So many young people, 20 somethings, are aware of the fact that working some typical 9-5 job will bring little in the way of meaning for them. Most of them are more interested in being entrepreneurs, focusing on themselves and living the life that they want to have. Previous generations everyone would drone to their dead end soul sucking job and not even question it at all, they just accepted that as their reality and chose to go with it.

As for men specifically, many of us grew up in divorced households and I feel we don't place as much value on getting married and having kids like previous generations. As I mentioned, I think more people of my generation are more focused on trying to live the life that they want to have and not just going along with everything.

I'm 28 and I have no interest in getting married or having children. I want to be able to pursue my hobbies and interest, continue living the flexible life that I have and enjoy my time here. The idea of getting sucked into the soul crushing 9 to 5 grind to make someone else rich as I waste my life away has no appeal to me what so ever, something I was fortunate enough to learn at a very young age.
 

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I was reading this, and it got me interested:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ave-perplexing-hole-in-a-hot-u-s-labor-market



my opinion: Young men these days are looking at the age old paradigm of being a "good provider" and realizing that it's not going to help them get poontang, so what's the point? Chad is going to tap whether he has a job or not, and the non-Chads are not going to be able to tap, except in the super-beta situation of marrying a single mommie.
I blame low testosterone.

Low level mgtow maybe. One of the best players I know brought up mgtow V log by hulse. It's spot on. Spend say 15_30k on wedding with what, cratered or plummeted SMV? Lose kids in custody so, zeroed out, you can go your own way but you don't have resources.

I am mgtow as far as it goes to no cohabitation, no marriage or single mom's. I am mpua as far as it goes with playing the hand I am dealt to the best of my ability. I am TRP aware seeing female nature as it is. Not how I wish it was.

I can play cod, Fort nite or red dead without a nagging slob fat ass not in the mood wife. I am not playing these games. I am not putting in 80-100 hour work weeks just to lose it all face jail rape.

Look, if a woman gets fat, is a ****, not in the mood or low sex drive, I next her. No living in cohabitation gf or wife. No marriage or single mom's. #nextSet @ life. Repeat till **** falls off or dead.

I can quit my job and travel. I can live on a low end middle income side hustle or less. No kids or anything. I can rent. I can rent out my basement. I can live a minimalist lifestyle. No plausible if married with kids.

The risk vs reward assessment is retarded. Men still do it blindly. Beta thirst.
 

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I think a lot of this has more to do with this generation and not completely MGTOW. So many young people, 20 somethings, are aware of the fact that working some typical 9-5 job will bring little in the way of meaning for them. Most of them are more interested in being entrepreneurs, focusing on themselves and living the life that they want to have. Previous generations everyone would drone to their dead end soul sucking job and not even question it at all, they just accepted that as their reality and chose to go with it.

As for men specifically, many of us grew up in divorced households and I feel we don't place as much value on getting married and having kids like previous generations. As I mentioned, I think more people of my generation are more focused on trying to live the life that they want to have and not just going along with everything.

I'm 28 and I have no interest in getting married or having children. I want to be able to pursue my hobbies and interest, continue living the flexible life that I have and enjoy my time here. The idea of getting sucked into the soul crushing 9 to 5 grind to make someone else rich as I waste my life away has no appeal to me what so ever, something I was fortunate enough to learn at a very young age.
Likely why your predisposition is as it is with women you pursue.

Unless a free thinker, women follow hypergamy and their biology blind. Women are taught to wait, hold out, sloot gonna sloot, and squander SMV, her best years. Cheered off the cliff. Worse being the promo for edu degrees not in stem but gender studies or basket weaving. You cannot declare bankruptcy on student loans. So, cratered SMV plus absurd debt in useless major making her 10X useless.

Your lack of conscientiousness and desire to climb up the dominance hierarchy is not without its consequences. If Chad, you can work burger King toilets and you will smash. You are not and at 28, the clock is ticking. Trad thots are raking in $$$$$$. You can't compete.

If you are to pursue durrrr, go full boar. Go entrepreneur and get paid. Even if miniscule, you can get the best deal, lifestyle, and puss especially if you are mobile through several streams of income.
 

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Two generations ago an average guy with an average salary was respected at work and at home, his salary was good enough to buy a house in 20 yerars and feed a family.

Right now it takes degrees and degrees to get an average job that wont grant a salary capable of growing a family or buying a house, an average guy with an average job is seen from women and society the same way a burger flipper was considered two generations ago.

Its not a matter of a different mindset, its a simple cost-benefits ratio evaluation.

Keep in mind that the average woman in the 90s would be a solid 8 in terms of look and behaviour right now, overweight overtattoed carousel riders with attitude existed only in comedy movies back then.

Boomers have no idea what the social and economic conditions exist now for a young man, they still think a school drop out knocking doors gets job offers thrown at him and girls getting naked at his sight.
 

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I recall awhile back they were saying that the job market was growing, but it was growing in areas traditionally filled by females. Maybe this has something to do with it. Maybe it's not all intentional, maybe the jobs aren't there for them, and the jobs that are there don't offer much room for advancement.
 

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I've thought about this and here's my theory on it. As the information is freely available to Men worldwide, more and more Men are realizing that the whole "system" is one big bag of sh*t and lies. When I hear that today's modern "empowered" Women are going to college more and getting more degrees than Men I laugh, think about that for a moment...... Men are aware that modern college is one big money machine so that you stay enslaved for the rest of your life financially (Assuming you took out a loan) Also, Men are realizing that working your average 9 to 5 Job leads to a tough road financially with no real expansion because you are stuck under your employers thumb all for the sake of a dollar that loses its value daily thus increasing prices that you can't keep up with. IMO to live like you want to live, You need to bring in at least $250K a year from a business or investment, depending on where you live as well, Here in NYC, 500K - 1Mill is doing ok.

What are these Women going to do with all of these degrees? not to mention the unfathomable student loan debt that will 100% tank the economy hard in the not so distant future. There will be NO jobs and people will be fighting for low paying positions just to try and get by which makes things even worse because employers will know they've got you by the balls (or t*ts of your a Woman). The whole situation is going to turn real ugly and deep down, I believe Men know this. Women are naturally followers so the majority are doing it the way "society" says to do it but it's a complete enslavement trap and again, Men are realizing this and opting out of it. When things turn ugly, Women will be scrambling to find a wealthy Man to hang with but Men won't want any part of it in terms of a relationship and/or Marriage. From everything that's happening with false rape allegations, #Metoo, Feminism, etc. What wealthy Man will want to risk it? I know a few very Wealthy Men (Millionaires) in the ages of 25 to 35, They refuse to settle with any chick because they know what could happen to them and I'm on board with them, It's too risky.

Mark my words, As the economy begins to tank because of the overall debt, Divorce will begin to explode and relationships will cease to exist because Men overall won't want to settle with any Women, That's when you will see the real MGTOW crowd grow.

Also what Deezedbrah mentioned above about low testosterone is another huge issue. Modern Men are getting "softer" and Women are pushing them around like dolls. Back then if a Women even tried to disrespect a Man, she would get a good smack across her mouth but you do that today, You'll go to Jail. Women are a loose cannon if not tamed and putting them in place is where you'll get respect from them. Why do you think "bad boys" get the pvssy? because they truly don't take sh*t from any Women and strangely enough, Women like and respect this even when they yell about how much they don't. the reason why i believe this low testosterone "theory" so much is from my own personal experience a few years back when i was using Test to increase my muscle mass and leaned out to 8% bodyfat. I had ZERO tolerance for Women's sh*t tests or any type of fvckery, I was a different Man mentally and physically and I had no hesitation telling a Women to shut her fvcking mouth or get the fvck out. They LOVED me for it and when I think back, It makes perfect sense that they said things to me like "You are so Manly" with a look of adoration. It wasnt that I was trying to treat them bad at all, my tolerance for BS was so low that they knew not to test me, not even a little bit.... and no these weren't average looking Women, these were the types to turn heads everywhere but their beauty had no influence over me whatsoever if they attempted to cross the line. All of this i believe was because I was taking Testosterone and once I came off of it, I dropped down to normal levels with my attitude. I'm thinking of jumping on it again when I get into my mid 40's. (TRT)
 

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Companies don’t want to train anybody anymore. So I could see where entering the job market would be tough, even in a good economy.

“Entry level” now means 2 to 3 years experience before you walk in the door.
They want to hire people as young as possible with as much experience as possible, they wants someone not any older than 22 with 10 yrs experience basically.

If you try to explain that if you finish your university at 22 and work for 10 years you cant be 22...they tell you to try harder next time.
 
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