Do you think mass shooters do it because of lack of success with women?

[Tenacity]

No mass shooter in recent history has had a girlfriend at the time. Think about.

You could run the correlation/causation argument all you want but think about this - if he had a girlfriend and a friend circle, would he feel the urge to kill?

How come professional athletes, doctors, and politicians aren't going on rampages? How come it's always betas in their 20's?

Lol, guys come on with this stuff man.

Do you guys understand what a Mental Health breakdown is? A guy with serious MENTAL HEALTH BREAKDOWNS does not want a girlfriend, he's pretty much "asexual" during the extreme break down phase.

If it were about not getting laid, don't you think the guy would just be a RAPIST instead of a mass shooter?

And what is with you guys thinking that getting laid is some grand conquest? It really isn't, I know this site is about "how to get laid" but for the life of me, women are such wh0res today that I don't see how someone who WANTS pvssy can't find it somewhere?

These guys doing these shootings have Mental Health breakdowns. Mental Health disease is very serious and isn't taken as serious in our society UNTIL these guys shoot up something. Like I said, usually in every day society, people would just mock this guy's issues rather than trying to get him some help. I mean even look at how some of you guys are posting, talking about "he's a loser and can't get laid" which is probably what others said to him when they knew the guy in actuality, had a mental illness/disorder.

This is not about Race, it's about a white guy that's gone off the deep end.

Just like when black drug dealers kill other black people in Chicago, that's not about Race either.

But apparently, we are still living in 1942 and every damn thing is about Race.

Lol, I mean this notion that having issues with women makes you shoot up churches, movie theaters, malls, etc. If that's the case, every damn guy is a suspect for mass shooting. I know damn well women get on my nerves to the point I want to chokeslam a chick lol, but damn that's normal, women are a pain in the a.ss!

 

[Jaylan]

http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

Dylann Roof's manifesto.

But it's not about race guys!! :roll eyes:

Lets see. Dylann Roof did the following:

1. Frequently made racist comments, jokes, and statements about starting a race war.

2. Drove over 100 miles to specifically target members of the oldest African Methodist Episcopal Church in the South.

3. Has a confederate flag license plate. (he states he hates the American flag too btw)

4. Had flag patches on his jacket for apartheid era South Africa and Rhodesia.

5. Told one of his victims he was there to shoot black people and also ""You rape our women and are taking over our country & you have to go."

And I could add some more.

So YES, this is entirely about race for this azzhole murderer.

And Roof was a coward: "I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight". So he targets defenseless peaceful people in a church...and shows himself to be all the things he claimed to hate about black people in his ramblings. Hypocrite extraordinaire.

One question. Does anyone actually know a black guy who doesn't say "I'm just more attracted to white women"? Nearly every black or ethnic post on here is about trying to game white chicks? Where does that leave black women? Or white men?

Opening a can of worms....it's obviously incredibly stupid to kill people over it, but I can understand how a single white man gets pissed off with it. I'm sure Asian men get the same with white men. I do detect an element of trophyism with black men seeking white women, a 2 finger "**** you" to white guys. I've nothing against black folks but just get annoyed with their obsession with sticking their penis in to our daughter's, sister's and friends vaginas at almost any cost. Mainly so they can get high fives off their friends. It seems as well often don't stay around to bring up the kid. Ultimate insult.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

Thats on you and other white guys if your ego gets bruised because white women date outside their race. Trust me, a lot more non-white women are open to dating white guys than there are non-black women open to dating black guys.

Non white women put white guys on a huge pedestal...especially asian (east Asian I mean) and latinas in the USA. So I think its pretty disingenuous when I see all this bs about tribalism and "our women" when certain folks b!tch about interracial dating.

Whites date hispanics in our nation in far greater numbers than they date black men. Interracial marriage figures back this up. Its pretty hypocritical too for certain white men to complain about interracial dating when half of US born Asian women are dating white guys.

You even have so many Asian women in our country who say they simply arent attracted to their own men...and how they arent masculine...or they are dorks. There are popular youtube videos on this subject. Id say Asian guys definitely have it the worst when it comes to dating in the USA...yet its the white dudes who get mad at interracial dating the most it seems.

So when you look at all the facts...it really boils down to racism at the end of the day. If more white women are dating hispanics than blacks...and if white men are dating scores of asian women...why is there so much attention paid to who black men date?

Ive even seen black men get grief from white guys before for dating a really fine Korean girl. In my view its really that certain white guys see blacks as inferior...or they simply have an ego issue when they see a white women who would prefer to date a particular black dude over him.

"Brothers" ? "White women want black d1ck"? Really, that says everything about the attitude I despise. It's a bad attitude, and you're a hypocrite talking about racism, based on that.

Plus you would do yourself justice by learning how to use a spell check.

How is this any different from white guys saying they have yellow fever or want spicy latin puzsy? Ive heard white guys also say they want that dark berry puzsy from a black girl. You obviously have a one sided view of all this...and its all down to your own ego being bruised because some white girls do want black d!ck.

Guys saying women want certain d!ck is not a bad attitude. Its men being men. You must live a sheltered life if youve never heard any men specifically talk about race when it comes to the puzzy they are going to chase. I have a white friend who loves asian women...and hes sometimes made the "they love me long time" joke with a fake accent.

Is he a racist? Nope. He respects his women and their culture and sometimes makes silly jokes thanks to an old movie's influence(Full Metal Jacket). Its no different from when Ive jokingly made BBC or ABI jokes when talking about women. The ABI is the African Beef Injection lmao.

 

[MatureDJ]

Elliot Rodgers could have gotten a hooker, a stripper, or anything of the like if his "game" wasn't enough to get ANY woman. But we all know that could not have been the case, Elliot Rodgers could have been a total 3 in Personality, but for the fact that the guy's Looks were about an 8.5 (or maybe even a 9) and his Money was a 10, that would have been MORE THAN enough to take up for the lack of Personality. There's absolutely NO WAY that guy couldn't get laid by solid 6 - 8's even with NO personality (being shy).

He is short, so his attractiveness desirability is very much reduced because of it - something that my 5' 5-1/4" stature makes me very sensitive to.

:cuss: :cuss:

 

[Tenacity]

He is short, so he attractiveness desirability is very much reduced because of it - something that my 5' 5-1/4" stature makes me very sensitive to.

:cuss: :cuss:

Naw, I disagree with that. I don't know his height but the guy looked like a damn boy band member, his looks were a solid 8 at the bare minimum. On top of that the guy was rich. There's no way in blue hell that guy couldn't get any pvssy.

It's why I keep trying to tell you guys, these mass shooters have mental health breakdowns, it has absolutely nothing to do with a quantity of pvssy they are or aren't receiving. Most of the time with the mental health breakdown, the guy goes asexual anyway.

I mean I see why the Mainstream Liberal Media always blames this shyt on the Manosphere, it's because you guys go along with it continuing this narrative that a lack of pvssy makes someone SHOOT up a theater, a church, etc. That is complete and utterly ridiculous lol.

 

[DearJohn]

After reading all these expressions of education and intelligent dispute

the catalyst is that pos is a white supemacist racist who hates blacks.

who give a f@ck what that f@ck is sick of. that gives him a rite to murder innocent black ppl prayin in a place of worship?

that sh@ts got nothin to do with it. this is about racism n pure hatred for blacks. thats y he killed innocent ppl at a church. gots nothin to do with not gettin women or religion n sh@t. it is all about hatin blacks is y that pos killed
those ppl. ur tryin to put sh@t out there thats not true. racism exists today n the hatred is there. sum pos kills a bunch of ppl n these dudes start talkin sh@t bringing up stats n crime sayin white racism isnt a problem. it is a big problem today.

the point is this fu@k was a racist n killed innocent ppl prayin to God in a church just cuz he had hate for their color. when sum @sshole spoutin racist sh@t n wearin racist sh@t thats a hate crime.

dude here is jealous of brothers fu@kin white women. y do u care if white women want black d!ck? another dude talkin racist sh@t here. most posters here dont want to bring up a kid with the dumb sh@t they sayin n posts.

racists cover for racists. n they get that sh@t from their race hate media u listen to.

f@ck him. he did it cuz hes a racist. u have nothing to educate.

ur another one who hates brothers fu@kin hot white women n that pisses u off when u hear it cuz u dudes cant get it.

I read this and it really gives me a laugh:

In alot of ways the guy reminds me of some posters here. no education, a loner, no job, a drug habit and an uncanny nack for knowing every black crime statistic available

Please, if you want to put education into the picture at least show some education yourself by writing in something that resembles actual English and not some idiom spoken by typical rap loving thugs.

If you add the white women fetish, I bet those two posters share some connection. Maybe like Dr backbreaker and Mr backbeat.

As for the hate crime, a few days ago some Afroamerican broke into the house of a White family and slaughtered them and then ordered some pizza. How is that for comparison?

Regarding the guy who was arrested, maybe he went nuts because of luck of a nice p()ssy, all of you spending hours on that board writing thousands of posts on the subject don't pretend it can't mess some guy badly.

 

[Jaylan]

^Nice sock account

 

[DearJohn]

^Typical response from female apologist gaylan.

 

[Tictac]

^Nice sock account

__________

The definition of irony.

 

[logicallefty]

^Typical response from female apologist gaylan.

DearJohn,

Cease and desist from personal attacks against other members. It is unnecessary.

Thank you,

Lefty

 

[backbeat]

but I can understand how a single white man gets pissed off with it. I'm sure Asian men get the same with white men. I do detect an element of trophyism with black men seeking white women, a 2 finger "**** you" to white guys. I've nothing against black folks but just get annoyed with their obsession with sticking their penis in to our daughter's, sister's and friends vaginas at almost any cost. Mainly so they can get high fives off their friends. It seems as well often don't stay around to bring up the kid. Ultimate insult.

"Brothers" ? "White women want black d1ck"? Really, that says everything about the attitude I despise. It's a bad attitude, and you're a hypocrite talking about racism, based on that.

ur a liar n hypocrite. u the one changin the subject from this racist pos killer to talkin bout brothers f@ckin white women. so yeah u jealous of brothers fu@kin hot white women n that pisses u off cuz dudes cant get it.

And now comes the name calling.

I am not saying he isn't racist, I am trying to help you understand WHY he is racist, but this seems to be upsetting you.

Do you think racists are born that way? Or do they become racist?


There are many racists, so why would this one choose to do a mass killing? I am helping you to understand the causation for this as well, but it also seems to be upsetting you.

In my attempts to educate you, you then call me names. Ah, the path to a better society, isn't it grand?

nice victim menatilty u have. u do this sh@t n all ur posts. u talk sh@t to ppl n then u cry its ppl talkin sh@t to u.

lets see. u talk racist sh@t. condone racist sh@t. make excuses for racist sh@t. blame blacks for whites killin blacks. neg rep me n call me the racist. then cryin ur the victim. thats bullsh@t n bein a p@ssy.

u dont need to tell me nothin. u aint in no position to educate n e body on nothin. cuz u dont no nothin except to make excuses for a pos who killed innocent ppl prayin in a church.

yeah u cant come out n say that this dude was indeed a racist. u need to find ways to make excuses for it sayin black on white crime n sh@t to go with ur racist narrative u gots.

racists comes in all colors n can be a racist from chillin with racists or readin racist sh@t on the net. the more sh@t they hear n read they get pissed off n them some act on it. jus like the racists cops who beat down innocent black men coming ot of a fast food restaurant with sum chicken accusin him of bein a criminal. n when the dude objects to bein treated like a criminal for doin nothin he gets the sh@t beat out of him by the cops. thats fu@ked up n u ppl want to use bullsh@t to make excuses for it. always the blacks fault for these white racists acts accordin to these racists. black dude gets beats down. he got it cuz blacks r thugs. white pos killer kills innocent ppl in a church. they got it cuz the dude is mad bout black on white crimes n u makin excuses for not callin it is for wut it is. its racism n hate towards blacks n ur teachin aint sh@t. n u neg rep me callin me a racist then lyin n the boards sayin it was insults when i gave none. when its u talkin n makin racist sh@t excuses for a pos blamin blacks for it. thats bullsh@t. n ur a damn liar.

 

[Tictac]

ur a liar n hypocrite. u the one changin the subject from this racist pos killer to talkin bout brothers f@ckin white women. so yeah u jealous of brothers fu@kin hot white women n that pisses u off cuz dudes cant get it.

This is not a personal attack.

LOL

 

[speed dawg]

Yet again, another round of mayhem ...

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150618/PC16/150619404

I have noticed that in all of these cases of mass shootings, the men seem to be the type of men that women spurn. Obviously, in the case of George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, this is a primary motive, but I think that it is at least a secondary motive with these other guys. I just have to think that if these men had had steady poon-tang, they would not have done their evil deeds - but that the lack of PT allows other sociopathic tendencies to thrive.

And I think that this is an underlying reason why so many Muslim men are so gung-ho about doing a martyrous act; had they been getting steady PT, I don't think that they would do this.

I think that deep down in the male psyche, there is the irrepressible desire for sex, that when not properly satiated, makes men act in an anti-social way, with the worst cases being these mass killings; I know that when I am well-sexed, I am more numb to the irritating things in the world. Perhaps the male psyche figures that the way to get noticed and desirable by women is to show one's killing ability in war; the only problem is that this can become expressed via general killing.

I think a little bit, yes, but just a symptom. The true issue is insecurity. That insecurity leads to a lot of things. What society NEEDS to emphasize is how to boost male self esteem, rather than focus on racism, sexism, homosexuality and other liberal buzzword ideologies.

What do Dylann Roof, the roving packs of black teenagers, African child soldiers, the dude who shot up Sandy Hook, the dude who shot up the theatre, ISIS terrorists, and others have in common?

1) Insecurity
2) 90% have an absentee father
3) 90% raised by a single mother

Those combinations breed chaos. All races/cultures are different, but those 3 things above can devastate any of them, some quicker than others.

Racism wasn't this guy's problem, just like it's not anyone else's. Seeing reality isn't racism. It's a fact that blacks commit more violent crime per capita. No, rather, he was already frustrated, and due to his weakness he was able to be influenced enough by other factors to pull a stunt like this.

 

[backbreaker]

I dont' think you're racist at all just somewhat naive.


1. I've done my fair share of "traveling" and there is anything about white women that draws men to thme it's the sheer number of them. They're like ****roaches they are everywhere lol. Of course people that live in Eastern europe aren't longing for chinese women there aren't any.


Pretty much anywhere you go sans south america it's going to be dominated by white people.


I live in LA and it's basically a melting pot of different ethnicities and if there is anything that i've learned over the last 8 years, it's that hot, is hot. Regardless of race. A slender 5'8 asian woman that's 115 pounds and works out everyday with nice legs and **** me pumps walking down the street is going to turn everyone's head regardless of race that person is. There just aren't enough of them to be anyone's focual point. In japan, where I've been, they are not longing over white women becuase the place is swarmed with hot japanese women. But like in America with asian women, a hot white woman in japan, like my wife lol, is going to turn heads, becuase hot is hot.



2. White men gerrymander white women. Meaning white men have a tendency to pick and chose which women are "hot" based on their precived hotness. The girl that oriignally brought me to this forum, her father is white and her mother is Colombian. Yet becasue to men, she was a smoke show, she was "white" when in reality she was one of the most pro hispanic women iv'e ever met. She considers herself latino. Cameron Diaz is half hispanic. No one ever considers her to be latino. Mariah Carey's father is african american but she's "white" to people. Gabrielle Reese's father is black, you never see people say she is anything other then white. Norah Jones is half indian but you don't see people calling her anything other than white.


My best friend, who is a girl, her mother is cuban, and her father is a Russian jew. She doesn't consider herself to be "white" but men do becuase she's pretty.


I have 2 month old daugther who is ovbiously mixed. But she's not like my son who is while light skinned, a little lighter than i am, unless her pigmentation changes she's going to be very very fair skinned more like her momma. i can't wait til dudes start trying to treat her like a white woman so I can laugh


But it works the other way as well. Obama is half white, he's as much white as he is black, but you will never consider anyone to call him anything other than black.


Hell my own mother is mixed. My my maternal grandfather is 100% irish american. or was he died. My mother is just as much white as she is black, but she's "black" if that makes any sense.


Of ****ing course men "want a white woman" when you gerrymander all of the hot ones lol.



3. Even if i give credence to what you are saying, that everyone in the world wants a white woman, am I supposed to feel bad for you lol? **** you got the advantage of being white.


If I go into a bar and I out game a white guy for a white guy, that's the white guy's lost. I gave the dude a 10 step head start and still beat him lol.

It's darwinism at it's most basic level. Only the strong survive and mate. Just "being white" isn't good enough anymore.


That is if I gave it credence, which I do not.

 

[backbeat]

backbeat,

Show me where I said it was not racism.

where have u said it was racism? this was an act of racism. ur tryin to call it for him bein on drugs n sh@t n black crimes makin excuses. u refuse to call it racism cuz u dont believe whites r racist n u blamin it on blacks n that is bullsh@t.

the fu@k head shooter himself said it was bout racism. he is a racist who hates blacks, jews, mexicans. he wrote a fu@kin racist manifesto. the mayor said its racism. the police said its racism. the police said its a hate crime. thats racism. not once have u called it wut it is. racism. u want to blame drugs, the media, obama black crimes n sh@t for y he did it. he did it cuz he is a racist n u coverin tryin to make excuses wont call it for wut it is. its racism n u deny it with the other dudes n here.

There is a strong link between the drug this guy was using and extreme violence. That is likely the catalyst.

But yes, underlying that catalyst is lies a combination of frustrations. Sometimes it is not getting sex, sometimes it is not being rewarded for what they perceive to be the right actions, and in this case it seems to be he was sick of the black on white crime relative to what is actually being reported.

If you listen to what he says, it sounds like it was more that he was sick of the barry sponsored invasion and the endless assaults on whites which are not allowed to be talked about by the mainstream media.

If you want to keep them from happening, you should hear why he did it. And as I responded to you in another thread, my explaining why does not mean I support him or that he has the right. I am merely educating you.

where u callin it racism for wut it is, u callin it for other sh@t but not for wut it is. racism.

I am merely trying to explain to you what the factors were which led to him shooting those people. Why does that make you so angry? Why do you feel the need to insult me over it?

u aint explainin me nothin cuz wut u sayin is makin bullsh@t excuses. the cops say its a hate crime n that is racism.

y u feel the need to neg rep me sayin i have hate for whites then lie bout it?

u refuse to call it racism then u get mad at me when i call it for wut it is. u neg rep me callin me a racist n that is fu@ked up.

 

[backbeat]

Racism wasn't this guy's problem, just like it's not anyone else's. Seeing reality isn't racism. It's a fact that blacks commit more violent crime per capita. No, rather, he was already frustrated, and due to his weakness he was able to be influenced enough by other factors to pull a stunt like this.

same bullsh@t bein told by these whiite dudes who refuse to admit whites r racist n kill innocent blacks. the fu@kin pos shooter said it was racism. he has a racist manifesto he wrote. wore racist clothes. the mayor said it was racism. the cops n the police chief said it is racism. they have it as a hate crime. ur full of sh@t n makin bullsh@t excuses tryin to blame blacks for his actions. thats sum bullsh@t rite there.

 

[DearJohn]

I dont' think you're racist at all just somewhat naive.


1. I've done my fair share of "traveling" and there is anything about white women that draws men to thme it's the sheer number of them. They're like ****roaches they are everywhere lol. Of course people that live in Eastern europe aren't longing for chinese women there aren't any.

It's darwinism at it's most basic level. Only the strong survive and mate. Just "being white" isn't good enough anymore.

The post above proves for yet another time that white women and especially blondes are sought after by almost everyone. The mixing that occurs as a consequence is another subject on its own. Even calling white women "****roaches" is a (racist) fallacy as White tend to have a much lower reproduction rate these days.

As for "the strong that survive and mate" there is nothing more wrong than that. Reality shows that those who mate and reproduce in higher numbers are usually the less mentally gifted. If by "very strong" you define some scam who has ten kids by ten different mothers, then your idea of "strength" is obviously different.

Now I will leave the rest of the arguments to your alter ego proving them right.

 

[backbreaker]

back to the topic at hand. this mother****er just did not like black people lol. There is no other two ways about it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/20/dylann-roof-manifesto-charleston-shooting_n_7627788.html

 

[backbreaker]

Damn danger and i actually kinda liked you lol. Oh well


I've never, ever.. okay i'm not going to say ever, but not in the last few years, ever been disrespectful of you danger. I have nothing against you. I even for the most part, side with you with your little e-beefs with jaylan. I'm not a spiteful, hateful mean person.


It kills people on this forum that I have a white wife and that she's hot and that you guys are beating off. IT kills you even more that unlike jaylan and a few others, i can't be riled up like they can because I actually have more important **** to worry about.


You and others prove that the MGOTW movement is nothing more than white male privilege gone array. You wish things were just like the good ole' days where guys like me stayed on the other side of the city and used our own water fountains and leave your poor ole little helpless white womenz alone and all you had to do to get a good looking white girl was be white and have a job. Oh how you miss those good ole days.


It kills you that with all the "traveling" you do and all the money you make, you still can't find a woman to take you seriously. Whereas "guys like me" are beating them off with a stick.


It's sad what this place has become. It really is.

 

[Tictac]

It kills people on this forum that I have a white wife and that she's hot and that you guys are beating off. IT kills you even more that unlike jaylan and a few others, i can't be riled up like they can because I actually have more important **** to worry about.

________

You flatter yourself and your buds bb.

No one cares about who you run with or what you think other than for the comic relief you type here.

Self-importance is a little man's imitation of intelligence. And self-importance is in everything you type here.

 

[Tenacity]

BB, I think you are starting to go deeper and deeper into the Blue Pill mentality my friend.

Damn danger and i actually kinda liked you lol. Oh well


I've never, ever.. okay i'm not going to say ever, but not in the last few years, ever been disrespectful of you danger. I have nothing against you. I even for the most part, side with you with your little e-beefs with jaylan. I'm not a spiteful, hateful mean person.


It kills people on this forum that I have a white wife and that she's hot and that you guys are beating off. IT kills you even more that unlike jaylan and a few others, i can't be riled up like they can because I actually have more important **** to worry about.

It's true, every damn thread you are talking about your "hot white" wife, and it's amazing in that you have to always use the phrase "hot white" when referring to your wife. Why does it matter what color your wife is? Why does it also matter to us that you find her to be hot? You are very Blue Pill, I have never seen a guy talk about his wife MORE than you do when nobody is even discussing marriage, wives or who everyone is married to/dating. You very much have put her on a pedestal, I hope she doesn't divorce you dude because not only would she drain you (you are the main breadwinner) but I think your self-concept would be destroyed because you have built it ALL around her which is why you talk about her all the time.


You and others prove that the MGOTW movement is nothing more than white male privilege gone array. You wish things were just like the good ole' days where guys like me stayed on the other side of the city and used our own water fountains and leave your poor ole little helpless white womenz alone and all you had to do to get a good looking white girl was be white and have a job. Oh how you miss those good ole days.


Now I see why you keep referring to your "hot white wife," it's because you are trying to spark jealousy and envy up within the "white" members here. Is that what it is? BB from one black guy to another, that's very lame. Plus I'm MGTOW and a lot of black men are MGTOW, MGTOW is not about white male privilege, MGTOW is a response to the screwed up gynocentric culture/legal system we are operating in. Last I checked, it wasn't just white boys that had to deal with feminism and gynocentrism. Black women are the WORSE feminists! Matter of fact, the black community is ran by Black women and is becoming a damn Matriarchy!


It kills you that with all the "traveling" you do and all the money you make, you still can't find a woman to take you seriously. Whereas "guys like me" are beating them off with a stick.

I'm starting to think you are lying BB because anyone who brags this much is usually full of it. Have you ever posted any pictures on this site? This is why I think it ought to be a requirement that everyone REVEAL themselves and we become more of an inter-connected community, rather than this place of total anonymity where anybody can log on and be whomever they want to be.