Do you think mass shooters do it because of lack of success with women?

[MatureDJ]

Yet again, another round of mayhem ...

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150618/PC16/150619404

I have noticed that in all of these cases of mass shootings, the men seem to be the type of men that women spurn. Obviously, in the case of George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, this is a primary motive, but I think that it is at least a secondary motive with these other guys. I just have to think that if these men had had steady poon-tang, they would not have done their evil deeds - but that the lack of PT allows other sociopathic tendencies to thrive.

And I think that this is an underlying reason why so many Muslim men are so gung-ho about doing a martyrous act; had they been getting steady PT, I don't think that they would do this.

I think that deep down in the male psyche, there is the irrepressible desire for sex, that when not properly satiated, makes men act in an anti-social way, with the worst cases being these mass killings; I know that when I am well-sexed, I am more numb to the irritating things in the world. Perhaps the male psyche figures that the way to get noticed and desirable by women is to show one's killing ability in war; the only problem is that this can become expressed via general killing.

 

[glass half full]

I'm guessing its a likely combination of getting f'd over by male friends, co-workers, bosses and by women, to the point they feel like they can't handle life anymore.

Maybe it was a bad upbringing, or bad experience in life. Too long with no therapist? Maybe

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Men rejected by women get insane.All it takes is a little push.

 

[Tictac]

Most murder and especially mass murder stems from the pathetic powerlessness of the perps. They don't get life, can't even operate their own and strike out blindly.

Disenfranchised nut jobs shoot rooms full of people.

Gang members and urban murderers do it to protect what little money and power they have because it's all they have and know that they can't even handle that.

Terrorists delude themselves that they do it to some 'greater end'.

All just excuses for not being able to handle their own lives.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

CONSPIRACY ALERT

The following link comes from infowars, which isn't known for being the best balanced news source.

HOWEVER, if you sift through alien reptile conspiracy theories, there is some serious truth there.

To Wit:

EVERY MASS SHOOTING SHARES ONE THING IN COMMON & IT’S NOT WEAPONS

The overwhelming evidence points to the signal largest common factor in all of these incidents is the fact that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.

Multiple credible scientific studies going back more than a decade, as well as internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies that suppressed the information show that SSRI drugs ( Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors ) have well known, but unreported side effects, including but not limited to suicide and other violent behavior.

Why doesn't the media tend to focus on this? Business.

The huge pharmacy companies spend TONS of money on advertising, mostly on big media.

And it's just good business to not bite the hand that feeds.

Of course, since big pharma ALSO gives tons of money to BOTH POLITICAL parties, you won't hear ANY politician mentioning this.

 

[Tenacity]

I think people blame the lack of "getting women" for why these guys do these massacres, but ultimately I believe it's nothing but Mental Health breakdowns, I DO NOT think it has anything to do with a lack of getting laid.

Mental Health breakdowns are serious in this country, there's a lot of people that either life and/or genetics, just cause them to break down mentally. I believe it's more a genetic breakdown rather than a psychological life-based one, such as losing a job. Many people lose jobs and don't do massacres. Hell, even people who are ripped off from Wallstreet scams usually end up killing themselves solely rather than doing massacres.

I believe people that do massacres over time have broken down mentally, with various forms of illusions, evil imaginations, and the like formulating in the brain which just further sends the guy (or girl) off the deep end.

Elliot Rodgers could have gotten a hooker, a stripper, or anything of the like if his "game" wasn't enough to get ANY woman. But we all know that could not have been the case, Elliot Rodgers could have been a total 3 in Personality, but for the fact that the guy's Looks were about an 8.5 (or maybe even a 9) and his Money was a 10, that would have been MORE THAN enough to take up for the lack of Personality. There's absolutely NO WAY that guy couldn't get laid by solid 6 - 8's even with NO personality (being shy).

What's going on with these guys are Mental Health breakdowns. People around these guys can see the signs and they know they are going off the deep end, but instead of doing something about it, they just ignore it or mock the guy for it.

 

[backbeat]

There is a strong link between the drug this guy was using and extreme violence. That is likely the catalyst.

the catalyst is that pos is a white supemacist racist who hates blacks.

sometimes it is not being rewarded for what they perceive to be the right actions, and in this case it seems to be he was sick of the black on white crime relative to what is actually being reported.

who give a f@ck what that f@ck is sick of. that gives him a rite to murder innocent black ppl prayin in a place of worship?

 

[skinnyguy]

No mass shooter in recent history has had a girlfriend at the time. Think about.

You could run the correlation/causation argument all you want but think about this - if he had a girlfriend and a friend circle, would he feel the urge to kill?

How come professional athletes, doctors, and politicians aren't going on rampages? How come it's always betas in their 20's?

 

[Jaylan]

the catalyst is that pos is a white supemacist racist who hates blacks.

who give a f@ck what that f@ck is sick of. that gives him a rite to murder innocent black ppl prayin in a place of worship?

Agree.

Lets not try to pin blame on something to deflect away from all the obvious clues given. This guy was simply a racist loser and chose to hurt harmless people because he's a puzzy. He didnt have the guts to go squabble with some roughnecks. Instead he hurts his own cause my targeting peaceful parishioners. I don't think getting women had anything to do with his hatred.

He's no Elliot Rodger. This Roof guy told you exactly why he did what he did...and his behavior, possessions, clothing, etc..all made it clear what caused him to become a murderer.

Actions like this stupid fool's have only solidified more Americans against any sort of white nationalism. Roof better hope he's seperated from the rest of the prison population, because if not, he will definitely have to join up with the Aryan Brotherhood behind bars. And even then, inmates will be after him in such numbers that he may not be safe. And dont think the COs will always protect him either.

I repeat though....getting laid wouldn't change this guys hateful mind. There are serial killers who were definitely good with women.

 

[SAYNO]

Agree.

Lets not try to pin blame on something to deflect away from all the obvious clues given. This guy was simply a racist loser and chose to hurt harmless people because he's a puzzy. He didnt have the guts to go squabble with some roughnecks. Instead he hurts his own cause my targeting peaceful parishioners. I don't think getting women had anything to do with his hatred.

He's no Elliot Rodger. This Roof guy told you exactly why he did what he did...and his behavior, possessions, clothing, etc..all made it clear what caused him to become a murderer.

Actions like this stupid fool's have only solidified more Americans against any sort of white nationalism. Roof better hope he's seperated from the rest of the prison population, because if not, he will definitely have to join up with the Aryan Brotherhood behind bars. And even then, inmates will be after him in such numbers that he may not be safe. And dont think the COs will always protect him either.

I repeat though....getting laid wouldn't change this guys hateful mind. There are serial killers who were definitely good with women.

As usual Jaylan, your post is spot on.:yes:

 

[backbeat]

In the UK, our media have focussed soley on the race angle. Nasty white hate crime.

When it was exposed that 1000s of white girls from care homes, 11 year old girls with no parents, were systematically pimped by Pakistani grooming gangs....it wasn't about race. It was about male misogyny.

they have convicted about 20 people from the thousands of perpetrators. Meanwhile, they are convicting every single white celebrity who had sex with a groupie, 20-40 years ago, and concentrating on this...the rape of white British youth continues in the background, with police and authorities doing NOTHING.

They found the 1% of white men involved and pointed to it being a "society wide" problem.

I'm sick to death of liberals.

that sh@ts got nothin to do with it. this is about racism n pure hatred for blacks. thats y he killed innocent ppl at a church. gots nothin to do with not gettin women or religion n sh@t. it is all about hatin blacks is y that pos killed
those ppl. ur tryin to put sh@t out there thats not true. racism exists today n the hatred is there. sum pos kills a bunch of ppl n these dudes start talkin sh@t bringing up stats n crime sayin white racism isnt a problem. it is a big problem today.

 

[backbreaker]

I actually think this guy has more in common with elliot roger than most would think


the guy said while reloading bullets

“I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over the country.”

I would bet good money there is some women issues going on with this guy, I mean look at him lol. He's 21 he's not getting laid, all the cute girls are rejecting him, he sees black guys with girls he likes and decides that black people are "taking over" and need to "Go"


The guy was arrested at a mall for asking random girls "what time do you get off work" lol. Cold approaching going horribly wrong


Ironically enough now that he is without queston going to be on death row he'll get his prized white girl lol


I think he shot up the church just for "shock value" and the fact that no one in church could possibly fight back or expect it.


In alot of ways the guy reminds me of some posters here. no education, a loner, no job, a drug habit and an uncanny nack for knowing every black crime statistic available

 

[backbeat]

Everybody Is racist in some way. I can't comment on the USA but here in the UK, it's a barely noticeable problem. There's more racism on whites as our legal system is very, very one sided. it's very politically correct here.

I'm sure the states are different. Here, most racist beatings and gang rapes and violence are directed at white people. There are very, very few attacks on blacks, Last bad one was in the 90s. Attacks on white never, ever get called 'hate crime'. It's just crime. Beat up a black guy and if he says (no proof) you said a racist word, you get DOUBLE prison time.

Add this to employment law which discriminates against white folks, its only a matter of time before someone here gets angry and goes nuts. ALL discrimination is bad, but some seem to think it's only bad if you have darker skin. It's gone 360 degrees here.

the point is this fu@k was a racist n killed innocent ppl prayin to God in a church just cuz he had hate for their color. when sum @sshole spoutin racist sh@t n wearin racist sh@t thats a hate crime.

 

[backbeat]

One question. Does anyone actually know a black guy who doesn't say "I'm just more attracted to white women"? Nearly every black or ethnic post on here is about trying to game white chicks? Where does that leave black women? Or white men?

Opening a can of worms....it's obviously incredibly stupid to kill people over it, but I can understand how a single white man gets pissed off with it. I'm sure Asian men get the same with white men. I do detect an element of trophyism with black men seeking white women, a 2 finger "**** you" to white guys. I've nothing against black folks but just get annoyed with their obsession with sticking their penis in to our daughter's, sister's and friends vaginas at almost any cost. Mainly so they can get high fives off their friends. It seems as well often don't stay around to bring up the kid. Ultimate insult.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

dude here is jealous of brothers fu@kin white women. y do u care if white women want black d!ck? another dude talkin racist sh@t here. most posters here dont want to bring up a kid with the dumb sh@t they sayin n posts.

 

[backbreaker]

One question. Does anyone actually know a black guy who doesn't say "I'm just more attracted to white women"? Nearly every black or ethnic post on here is about trying to game white chicks? Where does that leave black women? Or white men?

Opening a can of worms....it's obviously incredibly stupid to kill people over it, but I can understand how a single white man gets pissed off with it. I'm sure Asian men get the same with white men. I do detect an element of trophyism with black men seeking white women, a 2 finger "**** you" to white guys. I've nothing against black folks but just get annoyed with their obsession with sticking their penis in to our daughter's, sister's and friends vaginas at almost any cost. Mainly so they can get high fives off their friends. It seems as well often don't stay around to bring up the kid. Ultimate insult.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

I'm not. I've said that a number of times on this forum.


I"m married to a white woman but not becuase "she's white". She's a taller white version of me lol. We both have the same interests, same sense of humor, same attitude towards life, same work ethic, etc.


I'm very much attracted to black woman. i've dated black woman the majority of my life. If I found a black woman that was sexy with no kids and no drama that loved horse racing, worked out everyday and had a great personality i would have married her with the quickness.


Now that I think about it, ironically enough the last black girlfriend I had, who I've shown a picture here a number of times and she's hot as balls, her oldest sister was, just as hot lol, and married to a white guy in the army.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

Not less "hot". Less feminine. Black women have a problem as group embracing femininity. But the ones who do are just as hot as everyone else

 

[backbreaker]

nevermind

 

[backbreaker]

One question. Does anyone actually know a black guy who doesn't say "I'm just more attracted to white women"? Nearly every black or ethnic post on here is about trying to game white chicks? Where does that leave black women? Or white men?

Opening a can of worms....it's obviously incredibly stupid to kill people over it, but I can understand how a single white man gets pissed off with it. I'm sure Asian men get the same with white men. I do detect an element of trophyism with black men seeking white women, a 2 finger "**** you" to white guys. I've nothing against black folks but just get annoyed with their obsession with sticking their penis in to our daughter's, sister's and friends vaginas at almost any cost. Mainly so they can get high fives off their friends. It seems as well often don't stay around to bring up the kid. Ultimate insult.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

I'm not. I've said that a number of times on this forum.


I"m married to a white woman but not becuase "she's white". She's a taller white version of me lol. We both have the same interests, same sense of humor, same attitude towards life, same work ethic, etc.


I'm very much attracted to black woman. i've dated black woman the majority of my life. If I found a black woman that was sexy with no kids and no drama that loved horse racing, worked out everyday and had a great personality i would have married her with the quickness.

It would be cool if we could date their sisters, daughters etc but the general consensus among both white AND black men is that they are significantly less hot than white women. I don't find black women, even beyonce, attractive. Asian, Chinese, everything else I have and would date. Feel sorry for black chicks, if things were like the old days, everyone would get a partner.

Not less "hot". Less feminine. Black women have a problem as group embracing femininity. But the ones who do are just as hot as everyone else

 

[backbreaker]

Look, I personally don't have a thing for black chicks...some of my friends, white dudes do though.

Agree with much of what you have said, but yay can't deny the overwhelming majority of black men go mainly for white women, given the choice.

There is a lot history tied up in it, which from a white male perspective, feels like it's driven by certain unpleasant reasons. Plus, society and media actively promote it. I like women of my own ethnicity, mainly, and so do the majority of white men. White men find our women are targeted by other groups so they become a more scarce commodity. This breeds resentment in white men, as we find nearly every other ethnicity on earth is clamoring at the bit to date them. In your primitive, deep man-brain, it's like other tribes trying to steal your breeding material.

If that makes me a racist for thinking that, then I'm a racist. I don't think anyone is superior. I want equal rights, I'm no Nazi. But, this disparity in dating patterns means it's harder fir me to date a woman of my own background as they have the entire range of humanity desperate to date them. I know it's tough ****, but there it is. If you were in my boat, and seen it from this angle, you'd feel the same. Never thought I'd be saying that to a black guy!

nah you ain't racist. **** i have preferences. i don't care for chinese women personally.

i'm just saying, men generally like tits and ass and a pretty face. that's pretty universal. black women just don't like to adhere to the standardized version of american beauty but the ones that do, are pretty damn hot

 

[backbeat]

If you listen to what he says, it sounds like it was more that he was sick of the barry sponsored invasion and the endless assaults on whites which are not allowed to be talked about by the mainstream media.

racists cover for racists. n they get that sh@t from their race hate media u listen to.

If you want to keep them from happening, you should hear why he did it. And as I responded to you in another thread, my explaining why does not mean I support him or that he has the right. I am merely educating you.

f@ck him. he did it cuz hes a racist. u have nothing to educate.

ur another one who hates brothers fu@kin hot white women n that pisses u off when u hear it cuz u dudes cant get it.

 

[Tictac]

It's clear that this guy committed an act of terrorism. He had an ideology and committed mass murder in its name to further it. He said as much both before and after.

He is also a disenfranchised nut job and drug addled, at least from what you see in the press. So he's not much different than suicide bomber level 'terrorists'.