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hey guys its pretty out of character for me to do this, but I really don't want to screw this one up. She's an absolute goddess and I've wanted to rail her against the nearest wall ever since I met her

Heres a convo I just had with her for the first time in about a year. Just let me know if you think I'm in or I'm just getting ahead of myself



her: nice nick dude!!!!!
her: heheeheheh
me: yeah its awesome isnt it :p
her: it is so u!!!!
me: haha.. so what u been doing with yo bad self lately?
her: welll....broke up with my boyfriend which wasnt vry pleasant n since then been trying to grasp bits of my life that are left
her: thats all
me: aww.. thats too bad
me: hows stuff at uni?
her: good
her: im at tamaki campus now
me: studying what?
her: bbim majoring in IS n marketing
her::)
me: oh ok.. is that like a bachelor of bull****?
her: no smart mouth....its a bachelors of business n info mgmt
her: BBIM Bachelors of Business and Information Managament
me: yeah thats cool i was just being a ****
her: which ur s o good at;)
me: yeah we've already established how awesome i am
me: i was in aussie last w/e
me: best weekend evaaarrr
her: reallly...wat u do hav an orgy???
me: yeah we smoked crack and did hookers all day
her: haahhaahahaha
her: shud hav asked my bro to join u
her: he wud have loved it since he's all pimped now
me: nah i stayed with my cuz and his mates.. went out got trashed, played golf at the most beautiful course in the world went out again pulled an all nighter, etc etc
me: and then smoked crack and did hookers
her: hehehehehe
her: man u knw i missed talkin to u
her: u dnt find sarcastic *******s like u around taht often
her: :)
me: im not an *******
me: sometimes
her: i knw i knw
her: we shud catch up ....
me: i dunno.. can u behave yourself around me?
Her: will b hard but i think ill manage
me: hmm ok we'll do something
her: cool
her: u cn think up of sumthin...n let me knw
her: n we'll meet up
her: but it cnt involve sex...
her: :)
me: haha i wasnt even thinkin of it.. dirty mind :p
me: ok fine so i was
her: c how well i know men
her: but i end up with the ****iest of the lot!!!!!
her: anyways.....
her: leaving that aside...
her: i was in the middle of research for an asgmt
me: yea im about to get back to an essay as well
her: n saw u log in with ur nick...n i cudnt resist passing a comment
nice talkin to u again sweet cheeks
her: eeewwww sweeet cheeks???
her: wat da...
haha dont act like u dont like it
her: :$
me: i'll give u a buzz sometime
her: cooolies
her: c ya
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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sounds keen. take her out.
 

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Originally posted by RIDER
hey guys its pretty out of character for me to do this, but I really don't want to screw this one up. She's an absolute goddess and I've wanted to rail her against the nearest wall ever since I met her

Heres a convo I just had with her for the first time in about a year. Just let me know if you think I'm in or I'm just getting ahead of myself


1. Why is it out of character for you? You usually dont make any jokes?

2. Stop this desperate " I dont want to srew this one up".
She will smell your niceness your desperation and you will be out of the game. Literally she'll smell this......

3. You did good, decent. But she just broke up with a bf?
Run from her.... she crave your attention... she doesnt want anythigng except your attention.
 

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This sounds a little shady cuz like the last dude mentioned, she's fresh out of a relationship. You can act but with caution.
 

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I've found that girls I know don't like being called "sweet cheeks". It's lame and corny. I find "sugar-tits" works much better ;)
 

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Re: Re: Do you think I have a chance? Read my convo log

Originally posted by al77
1. Why is it out of character for you? You usually dont make any jokes?

2. Stop this desperate " I dont want to srew this one up".
She will smell your niceness your desperation and you will be out of the game. Literally she'll smell this......

3. You did good, decent. But she just broke up with a bf?
Run from her.... she crave your attention... she doesnt want anythigng except your attention.

No I make jokes constantly.. I'm a sarcastic prick and bust balls like I'm Tiger Woods. I meant out of character in terms of asking advice on a message board :eek:

You're right.. that did reek of desperation. I'll stop immediately

Attention huh.. so I should keep my distance and ask her out in say a few weeks/ month later instead?
 

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Originally posted by Mortukai
I've found that girls I know don't like being called "sweet cheeks". It's lame and corny. I find "sugar-tits" works much better ;)
Yeah that did sound lame :D

I just couldnt think of anything better at the time

Sugar tits is a bit too much though dont you think? **** if I was a chick and some guy I hardly know called me sugar tits I'd probably break his sh'it in half
 

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Originally posted by RIDER
hey guys its pretty out of character for me to do this, but I really don't want to screw this one up. She's an absolute goddess
Talking like that is the first step to screwing this up. :rolleyes:
There is no hope for you if you have that attitude.
 

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hey guys its pretty out of character for me to do this, but I really don't want to screw this one up. She's an absolute goddess and I've wanted to rail her against the nearest wall ever since I met her
Honestly, there's your main problem. The fact you see her as an "absolute goddess" instead of just another girl. Yeah I'm sure she's hot, but you should not let that control what you do. If she was an average girl, you prolly wouldn't be phased.

Next you say you "don't want to screw this one up". you're already pressuring yourself into hooking up with this girl, relax man! don't worry whether or not you screw up, relax! there are other girls out there, some just as hot, some hotter!

the more worried you are about screwing up, the more you WILL screw up. don't ever look at a girl as ALL or NOTHING. instead, be casual about it. if you hook up with her, GREAT, if you don't, whatever, you'll meet someone else, she's not the end of your world. And if she is, you got some issues you need to deal with before you're ready to date.

3. You did good, decent. But she just broke up with a bf?
Run from her.... she crave your attention... she doesnt want anythigng except your attention.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How the f*ck do you know what she wants? Can you read her mind? Most of the girls I hooked up with were just out of a relationship.

Maybe if you don't know how to play your cards right and are clueless about women she'll just use you for attention. If you do know what you are doing, you will hook up with her easily.

Majority of girls hate the single transitional period between a break up and a new hook up (unless their breakup made them hate men, in which case they wanna be single), and will rebound pretty fast.

If you don't make your move now, she'll assume you just see her as a friend, and will hook up with the next guy that comes along (and it wont take long if she's as hot as u say she is).

This girl is into you, don't waste your time, go for it man!
 

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her: u cn think up of sumthin...n let me knw
her: n we'll meet up
her: but it cnt involve sex...


sounds like you are LJBF

her: c how well i know men
her: but i end up with the ****iest of the lot!!!!!
her: anyways.....
her: leaving that aside...


sounds like she is giving you the emotional tampon treatment

her: welll....broke up with my boyfriend which wasnt vry pleasant n since then been trying to grasp bits of my life that are left

trying to grasp bits of my life that are left

would that translate into i need some attention and i need some new friends so i can feel better about myself ?

her new friend gun is aimed at YOU

me: i dunno.. can u behave yourself around me?
Her: will b hard but i think ill manage


haha she is letting you down easy there :)

MY CONCLUSION :

ok i don't see her having sex with you unless there is alot of alcohol/drugs involed.

You need to come across alot stronger. you are supplicating to her. even in the chat you are coming across like a puppy dog. YOU NEED TO BE A PIMP. i doubt this late in the game you can flip the script but anything is possible.

she is saying sex is not an option with you. that is some LOW INTEREST stuff right there. but she is intrested in using you to help make her feel better and to " get a grasp back on her life "

i would ignore her until she was prepared to get with my program. but you are not coming across as a strong dominant sexual male. you need to let her know you only got time for chicks that suck d*cks straight up. you got too many women to deal with and unless she drops the games and gets with the program she is going to have to wade back into the pool of AFC's.
YOU ARE THE PRIZE. not her. you need to let her feel this reality when you speak to her. she is not feeling this thus you are chasing her.

that's just my 2 cents


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Originally posted by Lost In Translation
her: u cn think up of sumthin...n let me knw
her: n we'll meet up
her: but it cnt involve sex...


sounds like you are LJBF

LIT man, I love your posts but I disagree with you here bro. There were so many times when I heard that, and ignored it, made my move, made out and escalated it into sex. If a girl says this, it's because sex has already crossed her mind, and her anti-slut defense is kicking in. But the bottom line is, she wants to f*ck you, and what you do next will dictate whether it happens or not.
 

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Make your move. Take her out, have some fun. If the mood is right, move in. If she tells you to back off, NEXT her.
 

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Quote - MindOverMatter
LIT man, I love your posts but I disagree with you here bro. There were so many times when I heard that, and ignored it, made my move, made out and escalated it into sex. If a girl says this, it's because sex has already crossed her mind, and her anti-slut defense is kicking in. But the bottom line is, she wants to f*ck you, and what you do next will dictate whether it happens or not.

i agree and i have had the same success as you against this line

this scenario applies to me and you Mind Over Matter but not him ( in this situation )

BUT there are 2 other possible scenarios besides the one you offer

but it cant involve sex

chicks say that when they want to let you know they are having their periods

( this ever happen to you Mind Over Matter ? )

and the 3rd one is the one i think the thread starter is in.

he has revealed his hand. she knows how he feels about. she knows what he wants. but she has LJBF him. to avoid him becoming angry and to make him accept his role as her puppy dog b*tch she has slammed the lid on his LJBF box by broaching this subject before it comes up. I WILL NOT HAVE SEX WITH YOU EVER. i just want you to buy me dinner, take me places and help me feel better and be a shoulder to cry on.

your thoughts on these scenarios please :)


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Haha.

That remembers me of one girl I hooked up some time ago.

She claimed left and right that she "hated" me. One day for some reason we went out together. It was crazy: She looked at me, I look at her, done deal.

Draw your own conclusions. :D
 

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Originally posted by Lost In Translation
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LIT man, I love your posts but I disagree with you here bro. There were so many times when I heard that, and ignored it, made my move, made out and escalated it into sex. If a girl says this, it's because sex has already crossed her mind, and her anti-slut defense is kicking in. But the bottom line is, she wants to f*ck you, and what you do next will dictate whether it happens or not.

i agree and i have had the same success as you against this line

this scenario applies to me and you Mind Over Matter but not him ( in this situation )

BUT there are 2 other possible scenarios besides the one you offer

but it cant involve sex

chicks say that when they want to let you know they are having their periods

( this ever happen to you Mind Over Matter ? )

and the 3rd one is the one i think the thread starter is in.

he has revealed his hand. she knows how he feels about. she knows what he wants. but she has LJBF him. to avoid him becoming angry and to make him accept his role as her puppy dog b*tch she has slammed the lid on his LJBF box by broaching this subject before it comes up. I WILL NOT HAVE SEX WITH YOU EVER. i just want you to buy me dinner, take me places and help me feel better and be a shoulder to cry on.

your thoughts on these scenarios please :)


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You bring up some good points. My 2c, if she was on her period, she probably wouldn't say that they can't have sex, she'd just keep it to herself and shut him down if he made a move.

As for the LJBF, you could be right. The reason I don't think it's LJBF is cause 1.) she was the one that brought up the break-up with her bf, he didn't ask her about it. usually when a girl says that, it's cause she wants you to know she's available so you'll make a move. 2.) she makes jokes about him having orgies and says she doesn't find sarcastic a$$holes like him often. I do think that she sees him as a bit of a player/ badboy.

if it's LJBF, he can just next her and move on. if it's not, he scores some easy ass.

either way, he has to play his cards if he wants to win the pot.
 

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if it's LJBF, he can just next her and move on. if it's not, he scores some easy ass.

either way, he has to play his cards if he wants to win the pot


that sums it up nicely :)

Quote - MindOverMatter
My 2c, if she was on her period, she probably wouldn't say that they can't have sex, she'd just keep it to herself and shut him down if he made a move.

sorry i didn't mean she was saying it i meant chicks in general might say this and it would be another translation of this ********

Quote - MindOverMatter
1.) she was the one that brought up the break-up with her bf, he didn't ask her about it. usually when a girl says that, it's cause she wants you to know she's available so you'll make a move.

yes if this information was not already know.

but i hear alot of chicks saying this to guys when they don't want to hook up with them.

example : i just broke up with my boyfriend and i want to stay single ( when asked for relationship )

i am still getting over my ex boyfriend

i just broke up with my boyfriend is a classic MY HUSBAND JUST DIED and i need time to grieve in the mind of a wh0re **note** when used as an excuse to use a man or LJBF a man

there are a million variations of this theme lol

Quote - MindOverMatter
2.) she makes jokes about him having orgies and says she doesn't find sarcastic a$$holes like him often. I do think that she sees him as a bit of a player/ badboy.

yes is doing well with the c0cky and funny and she is feeling that

all he has to do is what you said :

" he has to play his cards if he wants to win the pot "


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Thanks for the replies guys, I read all of your posts carefully.

You're all definitely right about me not seeing her as just another girl, I was way more excited over her than I should be. So I started chatting up this other chick today so I have another option if this one doesnt work out (calmer feeling in the back of my mind at least)

I'm very interested to hear more about what LIT said about me supplicating to her and being a puppy dog. This is definitely not something I felt like I was doing, but if thats how I came across I want to know what exactly it was I did to sound submissive?

About the sex comment, her family is really religious and I wouldnt be surprised if she is still a virgin. She's rebellious at heart but always does what her daddy says.

I'm not so sure about some of these terms but I'm guessing LJBF means something like "just a friend"? I sensed that as well, so I didnt ask about her ex-bf or any of that crap she was talking about. I am no ones tampon

I think I'll take her out next weekend for pool and a blow'job :D
 

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you did great talking to this chick! seriously.
 

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Just bumping this because the server went down as soon as I posted last..

Hopefully someone can answer my questions above, its not even about the girl, I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing right/ wrong for future situations
 
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