MatureDJ
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I was reading an interesting op-ed about the permanence of the lower class, and it got me thinking ...
www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/opinion/david-brooks-the-cost-of-relativism.html
In the specific examples given here, it seems that the initial cause of the problems was because a woman had sex before marriage, got knocked up, and of course became unmarriageable to virtually any self-respecting man (cases where she is hot being those cases where such a man would put up with his beta-tude in exchange for high-quality sex), or in which the woman left the man (or drove him out), as legally married or common-law.
It seems to me that this all stems from the victory, in the lower class, of hypergamy over proper societal norms of living - something that is not seen as much in the non-lower classes as such folks have the psychological constraint to not give in to hypergamy at the expense of those societal norms. Now with that said, the destruction of the economic prospects for folks in that class is certainly an adjunct, as a man who knocked up his girlfriend would be considered as "unmarriageable" if his job were not deemed sufficient - which in and of itself is yet another expression of hypergamy.
The author attributes all this to "nonjudgmentalism", which really is another way of saying "the breaching of the constraint against female hypergamy, via the societal disposal of shaming the behavior of female hypergamy". The author also mentions the dearth of religion as a cause, but really all religion does in the lower class is give that psychological constraint, not from self-awareness that such constraint is necessary, but as a top-down directive to be followed, typically via fear of a wrathful God.
www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/opinion/david-brooks-the-cost-of-relativism.html
In the specific examples given here, it seems that the initial cause of the problems was because a woman had sex before marriage, got knocked up, and of course became unmarriageable to virtually any self-respecting man (cases where she is hot being those cases where such a man would put up with his beta-tude in exchange for high-quality sex), or in which the woman left the man (or drove him out), as legally married or common-law.
It seems to me that this all stems from the victory, in the lower class, of hypergamy over proper societal norms of living - something that is not seen as much in the non-lower classes as such folks have the psychological constraint to not give in to hypergamy at the expense of those societal norms. Now with that said, the destruction of the economic prospects for folks in that class is certainly an adjunct, as a man who knocked up his girlfriend would be considered as "unmarriageable" if his job were not deemed sufficient - which in and of itself is yet another expression of hypergamy.
The author attributes all this to "nonjudgmentalism", which really is another way of saying "the breaching of the constraint against female hypergamy, via the societal disposal of shaming the behavior of female hypergamy". The author also mentions the dearth of religion as a cause, but really all religion does in the lower class is give that psychological constraint, not from self-awareness that such constraint is necessary, but as a top-down directive to be followed, typically via fear of a wrathful God.