Do you have to act like a freakin animal just to get girls?

[Bonafide]

I mean I dont understand... must you use all this body language stuff and act like an ape just do get a female? Can you not be proper and still get females to like you? Or is it like females with class will like you (the same upbringing) because I mean all this alpha stuff is easy for me but im a really proper guy and some of the stuff is just not working for me. I read tihs body language thing about how slouching in your chair makes you look relaxed or leaning on things...and I was actually taught to sit up straight in chairs and to never slouch...

 

[MotownMack]

Fear not, the Alpha thing is taken a bit far on here, IMO. And you don't have to a lot of it to be successful.

Confidence is a definite must. That one tip along will get you further than any one thing you'll learn on this board, so don't overlook that.

Also, most girls do like a girl that takes charge. Picking the location for dates, what time they'll be, what you'll be doing, etc.

I think what's important for you to take away from this notion is *most* girls will get off on the nice things you do for them. To think that you should be nothing but a clod would be taking the wrong lesson from this, and you definitely shouldn't do it if it's not you.

The key is the timing of these gestures, and that they're done occasionally-not constantly, and usually on your own terms. Being AFC usually isn't an issue unless you do nice things too early and too often.

Most AFCs just constantly look to the woman for validation and approval, and are wondering what they could next do to impress her or worse yet-they worry than she's not happy and try to find other ways to impress her.

You should not and don't have to do it all the time- there is a really good Ross Jefferies tape that basically says the girls will remember the nice things you do and will reframe the bad things you do within the nicer context overall. So you've let her know you have a sweet side, but she doesn't get to see it all the time, and is left craving more of it.

 

[oakraiderz2]

I mean I dont understand... must you use all this body language stuff and act like an ape just do get a female? Can you not be proper and still get females to like you? Or is it like females with class will like you (the same upbringing) because I mean all this alpha stuff is easy for me but im a really proper guy and some of the stuff is just not working for me. I read tihs body language thing about how slouching in your chair makes you look relaxed or leaning on things...and I was actually taught to sit up straight in chairs and to never slouch...

You seem like an uppity a$$hole, in my opinion, who thinks hes better than other people and deserves to get girls, but doesnt. Sitting up straight all the time forces your body to be tense. Being proper is fine in settings where its acceptable. When youre with your peers theres no reason to speak like a 13th century british aristocrat. So...if we combine the fact that youre tense and speak to those around your age in a "proper" manner, you appear not to have any social skills. You dont have to slouch to relax, just sit in a relaxed manner.

Body language is an intrisic form of communication, luckily we're not apes and have language as well. Clearly you cant read people body language, which i feel is also a problem you have. Basically, you need to work on your social intelligence and stop trying to condescend those who weren't raised with such "proper" elequence.

 

[Bonafide]

Ok I respect what you posted oak. However, I don't understand how I would "appear" to not have social skills when im probably one of the best speakers in my school? Yes I may sit up straight but my body is in no way tense...You may be right when you say I cant read body language though, but anyhow could oyu give me any articles or sometihng of that nature that could help me?


I've read basic stuff such as eye contact and things like that...and how when a girl looks down its "submission" blah blah... but do you have anything to elaborate and sharpen my skills?


It's not like im a nerd or anything and can't talk to females or never had a girlfriend but im just curious ya know...