"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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do you ever friend-zone girls?

garruk

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why does the friendzone concept only apply to girls fzoning guys? and not vice versa?

how come i never hear girls complaining to toher girls about being "fzoned" and asking for advice about how to move out of the zone?

like a girl that you want to fvck, is LAWAYS a girl you want to fvck.


sorry its like 4 am here and im just thinking out loud.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I f-zoned girls before. They don't seem to take it like we do.
They just kind of carry on with their lives..
 

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Actually i have.

She's a girl that i use as a 'friend' when im bored or lacking company. Like a booty call, without sex.

Interestingly, if i was having a pusy drought, i would easily do her. Shes about a 5-6, small and cute but a little fatty. But she's always so into me and chases me every time i show interest in her that i get bored and my immediate reaction is always to run in case she tries to make a move. If she made me chase i probably would chase a little for my attention fix however.

Basically she has bad game and is an AFC, if she gamed me properly she would have much better success. But with us guys its much more clear cut, because our sexual triggers are mainly (completely) focused on looks. So unless she suddenly loses weight and turns me on with kinky talk, she will be a 'friend' and not a potential ****.
 

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Yes, and it's extremely effective in reeling them in even more
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Yes, although like lakeshore said they usually just carry on instead of making a big deal about it.
 

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Oh, and also, in regards to the female reaction: I know several females who've said "he said he looks at me like a little sister... Great, no more sex from him"
 

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lakeshore said:
I f-zoned girls before. They don't seem to take it like we do.
They just kind of carry on with their lives..
Yes, women rarely interpret a LJBF from a guy as a demotion and a rejection.
They just seem to ignore it and act as if it means nothing significant.

Oftentimes I really have to doubt whether women have the mental and emotional capacity to read and interpret men's signals .
Perhaps they are so egocentric that they cannot comprehend (or believe)that a man would deliberately pass up on some nookie.
 

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i remeber me and my friend were watching tv and on the show the guy said ljbf the woman still kept chasing i asked my friend why women dont get the hint she told me...
"hes just saying that" and "because men dont know wat they want"

as for ljbf girls yeah i done it to one girl but shes very jealous,im a flirt,when i get bored i lead her on so it didnt work to well
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'll usually friends zone girls who I'm not trying to pick up or am not attracted to but are other wise attracted to me and making it obvious. I'm not in the business of wasting other peoples time so basking in the attention of some one whom I'm not interested in is definitely not on my list of things to do. Sure there have been times where I've been drunk and hooked up with a girl who was kind of on the fence about me, but typically as soon as I'm sober I'll say, in as candor a manner as possible, "Sorry about any confusion I may have brought to the table, but we're just friends as far as that goes." Some times they can handle it and stay in orbit other times they reduce contact and die off. Either way I'm satisfied.

You could use friends zoning to create attraction if you'd like though. Most girls get off on guys fawning over them so if you can really sell a LJBF with one they take it as a blow to the ego. The key part is keeping composure though. You really have to sell them that you just don't find them attractive in your eyes. I've intentionally done this to really hot girls to get with some of their friends as a main goal. Again selling to them "She's hot and all but ehhhh, I'm lookin for something different. You know what I mean?" Friends of hot girls eat that sh*t up. And when you leave it open like that they assume that "something different" might be or is them. It's a good way to turn one potential hook up into 3 or 4 sure things.
 

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Definitely have done it to girls that were interested in me. Has produced both some of my very best female friends and a few crazy desperate chicks.
 

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Yeah, but they aren't very hot, it sucks for that reason. I think its a good thing to friendzone some bytches that you aren't generally attracted, win if they're attractive girls, hard for guys like me, because I wnat to fvck anything with a hole in it - Minus the Beach whales.
 

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I've done it before, but one of two things either happen: 1) They just don't get it and they keep on trying to act like my girlfriend, which I get really annoyed and drop them all together. 2) Like someone said before, they move on with their lives. Men when they get friendzoned continue to eat up the women's words and chase their tails around. Not that it's impossible to have female friends, in fact some of my closest friends are female, but to make a target into your friend, usually doesn't work out.
 

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I actually have more female friends then male. I think
girls are more fun to hang with.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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lakeshore said:
I actually have more female friends then male. I think
girls are more fun to hang with.
Yes but not to trust.

And yes i friendzoned 2 or 3 girls.
 

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It only works if she's already attracted to you. I've done this a few times and I get a good response every time. It was just an experiment the first time I did it...I was wondering the same thing as the OP. So I told this girl that I wasn't interested in that I just wanted to be friends. It must've drove her crazy cause she wouldn't leave me alone after that.

But like others said, if she's not into you, she'll just carry on.
 

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GetOveIT said:
Yes but not to trust.

And yes i friendzoned 2 or 3 girls.
you know what though, i can't trust guy friends either.

It really is a f*cked up cruel world out there it seems like..

Thats why good friends/girl friends really are something to treasure.
 

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lakeshore said:
I actually have more female friends then male. I think
girls are more fun to hang with.
Im going to assume that you have problems getting women.

Theres something wrong if you prefer to hang out with girls rather than guy friends.
 

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Nice to see this thread today.

I'm about to friend-zone a girl.

Same story as Ease posted above.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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