"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Do you care about a woman's status at all?

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Simple question, is there any kind of status that a girl can have that you care about, whether positively or negatively.

Examples of status:

1. She's legitimately famous, an actress/supermodel/singer (ex: avril lavigne, kate upton, kirsten dunst, mia khalifa).

2. She's "famous" like internet famous, a huge instagram/facebook/twitter/youtube/snapchat/twitch.tv star as opposed to any real life thing (ex: celestia vega, sommer ray, brittanya razavi ).

3. She's just rich, no examples because I'm too poor to know anyone like this lol. paris hilton and kim kardashian would be good examples if they weren't famous.

4. Status from her job, like she's something important like a doctor or a politician or a scientist, or maybe she's just something that men would care about like a fashion model, a victoria's secret angel, a playboy playmate, etc. etc.

To me, I'd say that a girl being rich is a plus, a girl having a job that nearly guarantees attractiveness and sexy wardrobes is a plus, a girl having a humongous ego is deal breaker 99.99% of the time, and obviously, a girl whose status makes her out of my league is less than desirable (a celebrity probably wouldn't give a normal dude the time of day).

I think at the end of the day I'd prefer a girl whose job/hobbies benefitted me personally (like her being a masseuse or a dancer or a gymnast) would win out over any sort of status, unless I really wanted bragging rights, paparazzi hounding me, or to spend someone else's money (actually that all sounds awesome).

What do you guys think?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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A woman's status is in her looks IMO (as far as men are concerned).

A girl with money is nice because she can pay her way on expensive outings, and she can contribute a lot to the agenda. She can also buy you stuff, if you're into that sort of thing.
 

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I purposefully avoid them now actually. One ex was insta-famous and her whole circle were vapid status seekers looking to be kept without providing value. I had to keep reminding Miss that I'm not one of her brand sponsors. My IQ went down every time 2 or more of them were around me.

I prefer to have the higher status and basically wife up one that worships the ground I walk on. Not an easy find, but doable. To put another way, date up in looks but down a step or 2 in status.
 

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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In the mediocrity of our middle-class world, a person's ambitious clambering after status more often than not reflects an inner poverty.

I'm of the 'enough' mentality - once I have enough material assets, I am freed up to pursue other things.
 
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You shouldn't need slums to do that. Asian dating sites are a good way to tee up holiday company in major cities.
that was like 80% a joke, but that's an interesting idea.
 

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A woman's status is based on her looks. Ugly women have no status to guys. Would you fvck Oprah?

The way reality in America works is that an HB 10 has just as much social status as a guy making millions. That's why millionaires marry HB 10's.
Rofl, I don't know what you got going on in your head... I would get Oprah pregnant so fast with twins!!
 

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Short answer, no.

That said, my last girl came from a rich family and I truly feel that we were more compatible because of that. She didn't mind being spoiled, she had a taste for the finer things, and I reminded her of her dad. When she met my stepdad who is wealthy, they got along instantly because they seem to know how to vet each other (he hated most of my women).

However, she was always flaunting frivolous signs of wealth, like her girlfriend's penthouse apartment, her dad's yacht, and her sugar daddy's $5M bank account. So I'm not sure I stood out despite taking her to the finest restaurants, hotels and resorts in the state.

Meanwhile, poor girls will say things like "Nobody ever took me to a nice restaurant before" which is sort of sad.

In general men couldn't care less about a woman's income because her high income means she needs him less, which cancels out any benefit.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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In general men couldn't care less about a woman's income because her high income means she needs him less, which cancels out any benefit.
What if she buys you a car for your birthday?
 

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In my opinion she has do something/offer value outside of her looks. Work at Starbucks, be a musician, be educated, want a big family, etc.

To have sex and be in a relationship with a 10/10 would get boring pretty fast if all she has to offer is her genetic material.
 
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Nope I don't care about a chick's status at all. I care about how she looks, and if she is fun... really that's it. If she is smart and can carry on a really good conversation, that's a plus, but I can do without that. I have friends for that.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Every woman I have meet with exceptional status either financially, physically or academically makes a point of overtly using that to her benefit often in tasteless ways.
 

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In my opinion she has do something/offer value outside of her looks. Work at Starbucks, be a musician, be educated, want a big family, etc.

To have sex and be in a relationship with a 10/10 would get boring pretty fast if all she has to offer is her genetic material.
I've always considered looks to be an attraction factor.

The other things are just personal filters. Like wanting a big family, I don't want children at my age certainly, so I wouldn't want a woman who aspires to have a big family. I like a girl to have her own income, but I know many guys on here are like "No wife of mine will ever work".

So you get attracted by her looks, then begins the screening process..
 

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I don't care what her status is. She needs to be good looking, mentally healthy, feminine, and a good personality. That's pretty damn rare these days.
 

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I don't care what her status is. She needs to be good looking, mentally healthy, feminine, and a good personality. That's pretty damn rare these days.
Agreed. Those four quality items are indeed extremely rare to find in the same package these days. Sad deal …
 
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Every woman I have meet with exceptional status either financially, physically or academically makes a point of overtly using that to her benefit often in tasteless ways.
isn't that the point of having things you can use to your advantage? using them to your advantage?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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