Do you acknowledge the bf or no?

[teddy]

I'm not talking about a ONS, more like a girl who's actually dateable. We've hung out a couple times, but now I don't know whether to waste my time or not. I've seen people say not to acknowledge the bf, just meet up every once in a while and escalate, or otherwise say the bf is a "nice guy" or something like that. I have also seen people say to just tell her that I don't have too much time to spare for women I'm not dating or to tell her when she's sick of him to contact me. Both seem like opposite tactics. What is the final word on which way to go?

 

[Maximus Rex]

I'm not talking about a ONS, more like a girl who's actually dateable.

A chick that's "dateable," wouldn't be hanging out with you. Chicks who respect their man and their relationships don't seek validation and attention via the next dude, contrary to that sh*t b*tches say about the "platonic," nature of the friendship. You want to hit and the b*tch knows you want to hit. The question is whether or not you're going to loiter around this broad or make your intentions known.

We've hung out a couple times,

You're being very vague here. What constitutes "hanging out?" Was it strictly platonic? Meaning that y'all went to the spot for a few drinks, you kept your "hands to yourself," had a rather mundane conversation about how f*cked up Richie Incognito was, listening to her b*tch about her boyfriend's inadequacies, and the dudes she wants to get to know carnally? Or did you state your intent, initiate kino, and didn't lose focus of the mission objective, which is to get that p*ssy?

but now I don't know whether to waste my time or not.

Do you find it unethical to go after another dude's chick? If not, have at it. The benefits to pursing a chick with a man is that it exposes you to another element of the game and it helps you develop another skill set. The drawback is you don't how dude is going to react. You'll have to assume the worst case scenario is going to happen and dude is going to want to fight you. If he's Hispanic, potna will take great offense to you knocking off his broad and will cause nothing but grief and strife in your life.

I've seen people say not to acknowledge the bf, just meet up every once in a

Yeah, how is mentioning dude going to help you achieve your long term objective?

What is the final word on which way to go?

With all things considered, just pursue her as if she didn't have a boyfriend.

Of course I have to include what Mystery said in his book about this very subject:


The following come from "The Mystery Method," By Mystery page 36

Nine times out of ten, when a woman says, " I have a boyfriend," what this translates to is, "You just telegraphed too much interest."

It has nothing to do with whether she actually has a boyfriend. In fact if she is attracted to you, she will often deliberately hide the boyfriend from you until after you have had sex with her.

Whether she mentions him or not in no way proves that he actually exists-only that she had a motive to mention him.

1) Though she doesn't have a boyfriend, she's not attracted to you or you miscalibrated your escalation.

2) She DOES have a boyfriend and, given her current options, she has chosen to stick with that relationship.

3) She DOES have a boyfriend and is willing to sleep with you but wants to make sure that you understand her situation first. She wants DISCRETION and understanding. And though she might be available to you for sex, she NOT immediately available for more of a commitment.

4) She DOES have a boyfriend and she IS willing to cheat on him (they often are if your game is tight,) but she doesn't want to feel guilty about it. This is her RATIONALIZATION process at work. As long as she mentions the boyfriend BEFORE sleeping with you, she can rationalize to herself that it was YOUR FAULT. Sure, she might regret it later, but that won't necessarily stop her from cheating.

5) She DOESN'T have a boyfriend and she IS attracted to you; she just doesn't want to look like a loser who can't get a man. Most hot women have orbiters anyway: nice guys who pose as their friends but secretly want to sleep with them. Since the word "boyfriend," can have so many different meanings, she is thinking of one of her orbitors as a "place keeper."

THE BOTTOM LINE IS, DON'T ASK ABOUT HER BOYFRIEND AND DON'T APPEAR FAZED IF SHE MENTIONS HIM. HE MAY NOT EVEN EXIST. JUST TAKE AS AN INSTANCE OF LACK OF INTEREST CAUSED BY YOU TELEGRAPHING TOO MUCH INTEREST FAR TOO SOON.

Based on what you said thus far, I feel that #2 applies to you and she's using you as an attention fix.

 

[GS750]

If she brings him up just ignore and change the subject. I think lots of girls will bring up the fact that they have a BF just to free themselves of guilt when something happens between you, thus making it your fault, not her's. As Maximus said, pursue as if there is no BF. Oh, and yes be prepared to deal with backlash from the guy. Is he bigger than you? Military? Crazy? Think that over too.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I'm not talking about a ONS, more like a girl who's actually dateable. We've hung out a couple times, but now I don't know whether to waste my time or not. I've seen people say not to acknowledge the bf, just meet up every once in a while and escalate, or otherwise say the bf is a "nice guy" or something like that. I have also seen people say to just tell her that I don't have too much time to spare for women I'm not dating or to tell her when she's sick of him to contact me. Both seem like opposite tactics. What is the final word on which way to go?

This situation and many others that come up on this site come from men focusing too little on what THEY want in a situation and too much on what the girls wants. Why do men do this? --> Beta programming.

ALL men must understand that pandering and appeasing does not lead to sex/attraction/bonding. So cut it out.

Ask yourself what YOU want from the woman. Then ask if you can realistically get it. If the answer is yes.. ask if its worth the price. If it is.. then GET IT. If not WALK AWAY (aka Next).

 

[teddy]

This situation and many others that come up on this site come from men focusing too little on what THEY want in a situation and too much on what the girls wants. Why do men do this? --> Beta programming.

ALL men must understand that pandering and appeasing does not lead to sex/attraction/bonding. So cut it out.

Ask yourself what YOU want from the woman. Then ask if you can realistically get it. If the answer is yes.. ask if its worth the price. If it is.. then GET IT. If not WALK AWAY (aka Next).

What you're saying is true, but would you still acknowledge the boyfriend? I understand this situation is a bit different because he's the one she's going home ****ing.