"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do women want anything in life BESIDES attention?

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This is a real quick post. Do women want ANYTHING in life other than attention? I mean, everywhere i turn and every fucking goddamn thing i read is about women wanting, craving, desiring, scheming, manipulating, dressing, talking, myspacing, facebooking, all for motherfucking attention. They are fucking pathetic creatures!!! Is every goddamn thing they do for attention?! Who gives a good fuck about attention? What good is attention by itself??? For them to spend all that time and energy on myspace or talking up some guy or texting and not do anything beyond like closing the deal is asinine! He gave me 32.5 minutes of his attention...wow...great...i feel soooo special! So what? You're still the same, woman!!! How shallow can you get? Do something with your life. Give back to a man instead of selfishly sucking him dry of his time and energy.

...or are we mainly dealing with attention hors on this site?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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all humans crave some sort of attention.
perhaps you have just been dealing with some women that need to have a little more drama than attention.
 

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i think its cool that you've figured out a way to say f*ck without it getting censored :up:

asking if all women want is attention is like asking is all men want is p*ssy?

its one of the core things they want.

some women however seek attention by being sl*ts, some seek it by mind f*cking AFCs, and others seek it by being high quality and developing a healthy relationship with their significant other.

not all women suck.

unfortunately we do seem to be in the grips of mass hysteria. i mean when paris hilton is on larry king live something is f*cking wrong with our society.

so i think a lot of mindless women (and men) are modelling their lives after sh*t they see on tv. so in that sense they are very one dimension and unrealistic.

but there are still people out there who haven't bought in to the notion that male female relationships are just about men using women for sex and women using men to provide for them and give them attention.

you just gotta keep your eyes open for the high quality women. you can't really spot them instantly (because so many peopel wear masks in the real world), so you gotta date a bunch of chics before you stumble across one.

but when you do you'll be thankful.
 

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oh case in point...

wildfyre couldn't get enough attention. she caused trouble all the time just for hte sake of it.

whereas penkitten is typically very refined and almost never causes trouble just for attention.

not all women are the same.
 

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, jkrr...now about dating other women...

and i thought penkitten was a woman, she seems good-natured enough in how she responded to my rant...

can women be master DJ's? (like Penkitten)? ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think you are confusing the fact that women are primarily social creatures that FEEL their way through life with women only wanting attention.

And yea, penkitten is pretty cool, for a chick.
 

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most women are better DJs than men ever could be. women are masters at manipulating / influencing a situation without ever communicating overtly their intentions.

but women have a HUGE HUGE HUGE advantage over men in that they don't approach. as a result 99% of the time half the battle for them is already won - they KNOW the guy is interested in them because he's asked them out.

now, throw a woman out there and tell her that she has to cold approach men and ask them out on a date and its a different story. you might as well try and get an elephant to f*ck a squirrel in the *ss.

women are HORRIBLE in scenarios where they don't already know a guy is in to them.

I've had women approach me to chat when i was in a bad mood and while friendly i wasn't flirty - and without CLEAR signals that i was interested they quickly have to escape. hehe.

women CANNOT handle rejection. and having no fear of rejection is essential to being a DJ.

ever see a cat fall into the bath tub and how frantically it jumps out? i mean, that cat will do ANYTHING to get out of water. that's how a woman reacts on the inside to rejection.
 

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ty for the kind words.
yes, women are feelers.
but i can never recall a time where i timed how long someone talked to me or chatted online to me to see how much he liked me. it was more in what they said or did not how long it took them to say it.
 

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Women, to a greater or less extent, have an external locus of control ( I love how I get this psych jargon...) THis essential means that they measure their value,and therefore their self opinion, by how OTHER people respond to them.
I know - it sounds phucked but that is how they are.
Women are continuously scanning the emotional landscape for indications from others of approval and acceptance.
So it is not too difficult to understand the origins of a lot of their apparently "superficial" behavior .
Have you ever been in a relationship in which your G/f just bailed when she felt,or imagined, that she was about to be rejected by you. A man will hang in and try to 'FIX" a problem . Women just run and hide,or swing to another branch, when their source of 'supply" is about to dry up.

Men rely on action, intellect and accomplishment for assessing their own value. NIce !
 

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penkitten said:
ty for the kind words.
yes, women are feelers.
but i can never recall a time where i timed how long someone talked to me or chatted online to me to see how much he liked me. it was more in what they said or did not how long it took them to say it.
just because you can't recall it doesn't mean it didn't happen!

are you trying to manipulate us?

stop being covert in your communication!


[hehe just fooling :crazy: ]
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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joekerr31 said:
just because you can't recall it doesn't mean it didn't happen!

are you trying to manipulate us?

stop being covert in your communication!


[hehe just fooling :crazy: ]
oh sheesh
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
This is a real quick post. Do women want ANYTHING in life other than attention? I mean, everywhere i turn and every fucking goddamn thing i read is about women wanting, craving, desiring, scheming, manipulating, dressing, talking, myspacing, facebooking, all for motherfucking attention.
I could give you the flowery speech about how women are doing it all for you guys, so you notice us and grace us with your manly presence....but it's not actually true.

Women compete with each other, viciously. Watch next time you go to a club. A hot woman comes in with her friends, a guy whistles at her and what does she do? She gives all her friends that "I-got-him-and-you-don't" glance. Then all her friends start grinding or acting stupid to take the attention away.

The media is to blame for much of it I think, making a talentless tramps like Paris, Brittany, Lindsey and others, the "heros" of the female gender. Everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame and will do anything to get it. Why? Because they are convinced that if no one is paying attention to them, they are wortless. Better negative attention that no attention at all.

P.T.Barnum said it best: "I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right."
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
They are fucking pathetic creatures!!! Is every goddamn thing they do for attention?! Who gives a good fuck about attention?
You obviously do.
 

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joekerr31 said:
most women are better DJs than men ever could be. women are masters at manipulating / influencing a situation without ever communicating overtly their intentions.

but women have a HUGE HUGE HUGE advantage over men in that they don't approach. as a result 99% of the time half the battle for them is already won - they KNOW the guy is interested in them because he's asked them out.

now, throw a woman out there and tell her that she has to cold approach men and ask them out on a date and its a different story. you might as well try and get an elephant to f*ck a squirrel in the *ss.

women are HORRIBLE in scenarios where they don't already know a guy is in to them.

I've had women approach me to chat when i was in a bad mood and while friendly i wasn't flirty - and without CLEAR signals that i was interested they quickly have to escape. hehe.

women CANNOT handle rejection. and having no fear of rejection is essential to being a DJ.

ever see a cat fall into the bath tub and how frantically it jumps out? i mean, that cat will do ANYTHING to get out of water. that's how a woman reacts on the inside to rejection.
Or spin some game on a woman only w/ the intention of getting her interested, then casually strolling away...they sit there w/ their mouth agape... It's very funny actually..
 
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