Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Do women love children (video) has MGTOW gone to far?

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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JohnyTheArrow

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I was watching families outdoors and I always had feeling man was 5 wheel, sometimes it looks like he bigger child or some stray dog but it because these weak men were pvssified or always were.In 2015 it needs game to be head of family because after child is born woman doesnt need you goverment or other men can provide.

In older times women and their brats depended on man and it was keeping them in check.Now its optional.
 

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His voice is annoying sounds like a feminine robot.

I agree with some points (not children being parasites and hosts) like you ruler.

I do notice families it seems like men are just around. Seems like men are womens personal clown and source of income. Are women really this bad though? red pills a ***** lol
 

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Sometimes I wonder what happened to some men's natural drive to love women. My main issue with MGTOW is that it appears they want men to avoid women all together, that's just plain and simply anti-social to me.

I would appreciate if the MGTOW movement got a bit more intelligent than they currently present themselves, currently I'm disgusted to have this mental vomit associated to my gender. Had they instead taught men to handle women in a way women also like I would have been fine with it, but I've only heard men complaining how sh!tty their lives are and they blame women for it.

This movement does not solve the core issue, it's that ideology that fvcked up men's lives in the first place. To run away from problems instead of confronting them and working through them. Instead of MGTOW it should be called MCRA (Men Continuing to Run Away), it would be closer to the underlying truth of all this bullsh!t.

Mind you all this is coming from a guy who indeed has a narcissistic, selfish, deceptive and miserable cvnt for a mother. I was just lucky enough to have a step-mother who gave a sh!t about me, so I learned to intelligently be able to spot the differences rather than massively generalize.

Conclusion: Some women do not love their children, the result is men like Sandman.
 

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Grewd you massively generalized when you said MGTOWs "run away" or "blame women for all their problems" With anything in life that involves people there will be people who are on one end of the spectrum or another.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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PeasantPlayer

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MGTOWs are nutters, they are men's answer to Feminazis.
They make some good points though, I think they just take it to far as a whole. Dark Knights youtube channel is more coherent
 

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MGTOW went too far when it was created, it's bloody ridiculous it's like they think 100% of women are BPD.

Sandman actually makes some pretty good points but a lot of the time he's talking out of his ass.

MGTOW are former beta's who got played a few times and then instead of learning authentic game and bettering themselves, branded all women as souless monsters to absolve themselves of any blame, it's childish and sad. Especially when a lot of them actually posess half a brain.
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
Grewd you massively generalized when you said MGTOWs "run away" or "blame women for all their problems" With anything in life that involves people there will be people who are on one end of the spectrum or another.
You're right, thanks for pointing it out.

I also want to make the point that men going their own way is not bad in itself, I just find there's a lack of useful reflection about it. It's also a very widely appliable idea. Like what way? As I understand it from every source of MGTOW I've seen that way is away from women, but how do any of us go our own way when we follow this culture? By following MGTOW we're not going our own way, we're going the way of MGTOW. When I listen to these guys babbling on and putting mostly negative attributes on women I can't help but wonder what women? Why is it that whenever the topic is MGTOW I hear about how sh!tty women are? I mean sure it's not unusual to have bad experiences with women or just people in general, it just seems there's a lack of good experiences.

In the end of it all I feel more anxious around women after listening to this sh!t, I certainly don't feel it's helping me to make good relationships.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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