"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Do true "Alphas" exist on ANY seduction forum?

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Has any of you ever felt there are ANY "Alphas" on ANY seduction forums? Have you ever felt there is any one poster on any seduction forum that you would think is truly an "Alpha" in real life? OR do you feel all members are most likely keyboard "Romeo" Little Rascal Alfalfas talking straight out of their poo shooters?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Naughty Ninja said:
Has any of you ever felt there are ANY "Alphas" on ANY seduction forums? Have you ever felt there is any one poster on any seduction forum that you would think is truly an "Alpha" in real life? OR do you feel all members are most likely keyboard "Romeo" Little Rascal Alfalfas talking straight out of their poo shooters?
"Alpha" is what you make it. It's not up to other people to determine whether or not one is an alpha. It is entirely up to that individual. If an individual is acting as if he knows it all, then he is not a true alpha, as an alpha will be constantly growing and learning.
That is simply the principle of alpha life. "Never rest unless you're asleep."

As for what you're saying, it's easy to tell whether or not one is a true alpha over the internet. What is he saying to do? Is he saying to use a certain technique, or is he saying to simply be yourself and learn to be naturally confident and "alpha"?

It's the mindset of the "warrior".
 

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Lol wtf is a "true alpha".

Sorry, there's no way to tell if anyone is a "true alpha" over the internet, if such thing exists.
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I knew a lot of "alphas", and no, none of them gave a **** about the internet in general. Their lifestyles are typically very focused on real life and socializing.

But I think some of are still successful - just lead different lives. Like, I was always more reserved, analytical, geeky, a homebody, etc. Got into the "alpha" lifestyle, attitude, and mentality back in the day, but didn't fit my ideals. Not into all that socializing, going out, being popular, having a leadership mentality, picking up girls, etc. It's not "hard" to do, but wasn't very fun, was too much damn maintenance, and ended up hating a lot of people.

Most of those guys aren't necessarily successful, though. They run into just as many problems as anyone else. It's just that they don't care or analyze as much. It's just the way their lifestyle is. They're always going out, socializing, meeting and charming women, hooking up, having all these options... They're typically very confident, assertive, strong (mentally), and don't get bothered very easily. So, they just keep it movin'. And they have lots of friends, and things going on. Very much a leadership mentality, but that makes them selfish, arrogant, and egotistical, IME.

They also don't typically care for much of anybody other than themselves, and so, won't be "wasting" all this time helping others. Nor do they really care about all the details. They have a hunter's mentality, go for what they want, and don't give a damn about what happens, or what anyone thinks. They're very much living IN the "game". It's their whole lifestyle.
 

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It all really depends on what you define as an "alpha".
I see "alpha" as a term to describe one who is in balance with himself, the universe and others around him. An alpha is constantly learning, growing, and doing what he feels he should do in every situation (regardless of outcome).

That's just me, though.

@floyd

Maybe people write articles in order to help themselves as well as others. Writing is my personal way of analyzing things. It's easier to piece together once it's out of my head and on the screen. After that, I can apply more logic and "feel" to it, and then people get to read whatever the outcome is. I don't personally do it for anyone else, but if I can do whatever I like to do AND benefit someone at the same time, why not?
 

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The thing about being an "alpha male" is that its not a life sentence. Men are alpha's at different stages in their lives. No one is really born an alpha and dies an alpha from what I've seen.

To be an alpha means to be at the top of the dating food chain. To be a man the majority of women find attractive. This is not something most men can sustain for life unless they become ridiculously successful and rich.

Some men I know who were "alpha's" in high school and college are working at Red Lobster now. Some men who were losers and nerds in high school are driving BMW's now and banging a new 9 or 10 every week.

So with that said.. its a moot point.
 

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I don't know. And I really don't care to know.

Last night I met an absolutely stunning blonde 28 y/o chick. Pro singer, actress, played in two major productions, business owner... you name it. She's living the type of life I'm actually working for. Every day.

Anyway, I casually approach her after I performed a few songs and she was all upbeat and more easygoing than I expected her to be. Funny thing is all the guys were drooling over this chick, but only a few dared to start a conversation with her. So I basically ran the default DJ script on her and kino'd her to death haha

Two hours later I'm at her house gettin my freak on. Later on she all of sudden starts talkin about how "alpha" she thinks I am. For me that kind of confirmed how meaningless the term alpha is. I mean, here's a chick who has a trackrecord that's at least 10 times better than mine, talkin about how "alpha" I am. *****, please.

All I care about is:
1) Am I being the best possible version of me?
2) Am I better than yesterday/last month/last year
3) Nothing else

Sidenote: as soon as she said "alpha", all of those discussions on this forum started poppin up in my mind, because outside of these forums I NEVER talk about pickup with anyone else. I simply refuse and cut it short whenever someone brings it up. So I was literally thinking to myself "Is this chick trying to bait me into a PUA related discussion as an attempt to figure my game?". I just steered the convo into a differen direction.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Honey... Yea, doesn't mean ****. If you started acting not unto her liking, you'd go straight from alpha to scrub in a heartbeat. You're always the best thing ever and complimented / adored as long as the attraction is alive and maintained. This is especially true in the very beginning.
 

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No one is a 100% alpha, but there are guys who are in between and there are guys who don't deserve their ****s whom I refer to as beta. They are the b!tch boy we all know and hate who are kiss ups and whiners who have no spine and that is what it is to truely be beta. I was in between before Pick up, I was confident, assertive, took lead and was witty(alpha male traits) but I was also really generous(beta male traits).
 

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I was also really generous(beta male traits)
Is generosity considered a beta trait? I wouldn't think that generosity lumps in the category as passive aggressiveness/whining (which are feminine traits).

"When you receive something, always give back. They'll appreciate it."
 

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quit labeling everything...one thing is for certain, though, if you use the term alpha, afc and blah blah blah then you most likely are not one because naturals don't use terms like this
 

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I look at the true natural alphas I've known in my life and none of them would have been interested in learning seduction. They never were lacking with respect and attention from women, and all of them were married by 25 and they just have better things to do. Now, there are guys on here who I perceive to be alphas among this board and in life just do to their authority and success in seduction.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Alpha is situational. There are alphas of the manosphere who dominate forums and blogs but who probably aren't alphas in real life. A more real life example is the alphas at my job (doctors/surgeons) who wouldn't dominate sh!t in the circles I travel in outside of work (MMA, rockabilly, and motorcycles).

I'm hardly alpha at all by the way. I look funny, talk funny, and walk funny. Some people like me, listen to me, and follow me ONLY after they know me. I'd much rather share information with people who are going through some of the same things that I do. They understand better and likely have better advice than people who life comes easily to.
 

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Yes there are alphas , real men like to talk with other real men , so these men forums is good to alphas to meet other alphas .
Alpha males in animals are the most aggressive dominant males ,but it is not a condition to be loved by their group , but certainly they fear him .
"it is better to be feared on being loved if you can have both "
niccolo machiavelli
 

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Crazystarf said:
Is generosity considered a beta trait? I wouldn't think that generosity lumps in the category as passive aggressiveness/whining (which are feminine traits).

"When you receive something, always give back. They'll appreciate it."
passive aggressive is beta, because its not assertive which has its foundations in confidence which is having you stand up for yourself.
 

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as much as I hate using the term "alpha" *pukes in mouth* to talk about people, I would true real men would exist or spend time in any place they want.. They don't have to limit themselves to talking to everyone 24/7 and gaming women all day or doing whatever else i is that people consider "alpha". Who's to say that a real man with options can't enjoy a nice quiet evening online on a dating forum, chatting it up about things he enjoys?
 

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There is no way to tell.

Who also says that being an Alpha and helping others are mutually exclusive? In that sense, PUAs wouldn't exist period.

I think like with most things though, it's a spectrum. Most persons who offer advice here are probably in the mid range, and both impart and take advice. Those in the high range probably impart advice if they choose but this is done sparingly.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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