"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Do these Techniques work for LTR's, Yes, but:

Sapiens

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Do what we learn in this site work for long terms relationships?

Yes, it does, but the object changes dramatically. Initially you are just trying to get laid.

But once you have your fill, what next? You want to stabilize, change your lifestyle, and dare I say, “settle down?”

The point becomes to get to “know” the woman.

Is she loaded with baggage you don’t want to lug around and can’t live with it? Is she a nut? Does she have major issues that you can’t help her overcome? Is she set in her ways? Is she thoughtful, caring, confident, smart, sincere, loyal, helpful, humorous, productive and/or other things you value?

Remember, once she sleeps with you, the dynamics of the game change. Once, your need is satisfied how can she keep you interested long enough for you to get to know her?

My 2 cents.

-Sapiens
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Are these not all things you should find out before sleeping with her?

Ask my wing... I've opened sets and just walked away because they seem weird, and / or I have no interest in wasting my time getting to know them more. Some women are disqualified as soon as I meet them.

For example, sync and I met this girl who said her only passion in life was smoking weed. Next.
 

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Originally posted by locarius
Are these not all things you should find out before sleeping with her?
Excellent point! You are a smart man.

The problem is when you just want to get laid first because you are a walking hard-on, ask questions later.

You get the point. Good post.

-Sapiens
 

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If I was sexual with a girl after just meeting her I would know she is not LTR material FOR ME. How many other guys has she done that with? How easy will it be for some other guy to seduce her and get her to cheat?

Sleeping with random girls does not give off the impression that you have the frame that YOU ARE THE ****ING PRIZE.
 

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Originally posted by Sapiens
Do what we learn in this site work for long terms relationships?

Yes, it does, but the object changes dramatically. Initially you are just trying to get laid.

But once you have your fill, what next? You want to stabilize, change your lifestyle, and dare I say, “settle down?”

The point becomes to get to “know” the woman.

Is she loaded with baggage you don’t want to lug around and can’t live with it? Is she a nut? Does she have major issues that you can’t help her overcome? Is she set in her ways? Is she thoughtful, caring, confident, smart, sincere, loyal, helpful, humorous, productive and/or other things you value?

Remember, once she sleeps with you, the dynamics of the game change. Once, your need is satisfied how can she keep you interested long enough for you to get to know her?

My 2 cents.

-Sapiens
BS.

Nothing "changes". The "technique" as you call it (it's more of a lifestyle) stays the same. It is the romantic foundation of your relationship. The more platonic aspects are an ADDITIONAL layer that comes into play ON TOP of all the "game".
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Re: Re: Do these Techniques work for LTR's, Yes, but:

Originally posted by squirrels
BS.

Nothing "changes". The "technique" as you call it (it's more of a lifestyle) stays the same. It is the romantic foundation of your relationship. The more platonic aspects are an ADDITIONAL layer that comes into play ON TOP of all the "game".
LOL, Tell me this after you have "kids", the house, mini-van and the woman you care for in the same bed with you everynight.

Anyhow, just sharing my 2 cents with you. You are quite welcome to disagree with me. My purpose of sharing knowledge is to give back from where I received very much.

Cheers,

-Sapiens
 

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there is no games in a LTR.


an LTR is simple.

the reason most of the guys here are anti-LTR

is becuase they are afraid to get close to a women.

because they fell hard after becoming a needy afc in a relationship.


a women in a ltr is your best friend(platonic) lover(romantic) and partner(companionship)


you dont change anything.

being CONFIDENT doesnt mean your perfect..and when she learns of your imperfections and how u try to make urself better...she will love you more for that...than a BS fasaude of being perfect...


if you want a LTR..you should hold off on sleeping with her until your connecition with her is strong
 

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LOL.....I really hope you guys dont think im like that.


its not like that at all.

but that was some giddy shyt!
 
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