Do tall guys really have it that easy?

[CornbreadFed]

Two guys that are an exact replica of one another but one is 5 10 and the other is 6 4. If you think the 5 10 guy wins then you are naive.

 

[quodlibet]

Two guys that are an exact replica of one another but one is 5 10 and the other is 6 4. If you think the 5 10 guy wins then you are naive.

I seriously think the 5'10 guy will win.

Many women thinks 6'4 is too tall. Very few women thinks 5'10 is too short.

My girlfriend is 5'0. It'd be weird if she's with some guy who's 1.5 feet taller than her.

 

[MR ANDREW J BROWN]

Tbh.. my slight height insecurity came out a bit today. When opening a lady i liked. One i started, and immediately ejected, tbf she was about 3 inches taller. Probably should have stuck around and tried to rescue it lol. but there we go.. it comes and goes.. today wasn't a success. That is fine.. Its a shame as it tends to playnon my mind a bit then. And I overthink.. and then have a coffee..and all is fine

 

[zekko]

Barely anyone ever mistook Shaq, Andre The Giant, Tommy Lister, or the fellas who played The Hound and The Mountain over on GOT for panty droppers

I wonder what the difference was between Shaq and Wilt Chamberlain (who supposedly had a lay count in the thousands)?

 

[zekko]

Many women thinks 6'4 is too tall. Very few women thinks 5'10 is too short.

I disagree with that on both counts. 6'4" doesn't look freakish, and 6' is the classic cut off point for OLD. How many 5'10" guys are on OLD lying about their height? Might work in real life though. I'm 5'10". I've always thought my height neither helps me nor hurts me.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I wonder what the difference was between Shaq and Wilt Chamberlain (who supposedly had a lay count in the thousands)?

Google photos of Wilt as a young/even youngish man

He wasn't hideous, by any stretch of the imagination. Talented as Shaq is on the court, dunno that many have ever found him especially comely

 

[Askaladd]

Your game sucks, your personality sucks, you're boring, but because you're short you blame it all on that.

All of those are true, except the last part. Furthermore, I have no real upsides besides being 6'4". I haven't had much success with women, stemming from my hikikomori/incel kind of lifestyle. I was merely wondering if that height is as much of an advantage as the medias of our time portray it as.

 

[Askaladd]

I wonder what the difference was between Shaq and Wilt Chamberlain (who supposedly had a lay count in the thousands)?

Shaq replaced over wilt would easily have a similar bodycount. The 7ft mark turns off the parts of a womans brain that is linked to inhibition and chastity.

 

[Bigpapa]

All of those are true, except the last part. Furthermore, I have no real upsides besides being 6'4". I haven't had much success with women, stemming from my hikikomori/incel kind of lifestyle. I was merely wondering if that height is as much of an advantage as the medias of our time portray it as.

In order to brainwash people you have to focus on tHings that the vast majority of the population does not have

For example the media / red & black pill movement focuses on money, looks and height

For example, if you are top 10% in looks and top 10% in money and top 10% in height, that means that you are in the 0.1% of the population that has all 3 attributes. Basically you exclude the very vast majority of the population and that’s the whole idea to come up with things that are fictional or very close to it

for sure looks, money and height influence your results within different variations, don’t take me wrong. But to say that you have to be in the 0.1% of the population in order to have results and have average looking girls giving you a chance , I think that is very stretched from the truth

 

[zekko]

He wasn't hideous, by any stretch of the imagination. Talented as Shaq is on the court, dunno that many have ever found him especially comely

Shaq does have fame though, and I'm sure had high status going back to college and probably before.
In any case, I doubt that Shaq is/was exactly an incel.

 

[BadBoy89]

If you legit think that all you need is to be tall to get the ladies, you've probably never had an extended conversation with a woman.

Its not ”be tall and all the hot girls will sleep with you”

It’s “everything else considered, height is one of 2-3 most important for a woman in terms of attraction.”

Your game sucks, your personality sucks, you're boring, but because you're short you blame it all on that.

Then how come Tinder girls don’t say “have good game, have good personality, dont be boring, your height doesn’t matter.”

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I was merely wondering if that height is as much of an advantage as the medias of our time portray it as.

In order to understand the dynamics of attraction, one must not only be fluent in the economics of human decision making, but all of the interdependent variables that go into attraction.

A tall guy with no game, but a fat income? OK for some ladies but not for others.

A short guy with wicked game and decent earning potential? Ok for a lot of ladies.

A tall guy with a wicked face card but zero social skills or earning? F-boy for everybody.

Height is mainly a huge variable for first impressions and for ladies who want to be seen with a tall guy for social clout.

But variables you CANNOT control are a waste of brain bandwidth.

People who overly worry about sh&t they cannot control are almost always coping for an inability to accept and change the things they CAN control, like weak game, zero confidence, no discipline, etc.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Its easier if you understand women , because height is usually a major female attraction point

Unfortunatley height doesn't automatically generate chemistry and as such I've seen quite a lot of 6ft plus guys fail miserably after getting their foot in the door becuase they think the game ends there.

Some women are outright size queens and won't entertain a man under 6ft fortunately most of these women are chronically single and are isolated to dating apps and dating app culture

its all swings and roundabouts

 

[quodlibet]

A lot of the discussion about height ignores the height of the woman.

Like I mentioned earlier, my girlfriend is 5'0. For her, a guy 6'0 is too tall. It's simplistic to think there's some 6'0 standard for men.

Also, don't assume what you see on Tinder represents all women. Obviously, Tinder ladies are generally of a different breed.

Ethnicity also matters. I'm 5'5 and Asian (matching my 5'0 girlfriend). I'm still considered short by Asian standards but not terribly so. In many parts of Asia, particularly southeast Asia, my height is common for men. My girlfriend probably wishes I was 2 inches taller but definitely not 6'0.

But yes, if you're a white guy, being 5'5 will be unusual and be a larger disadvantage.

Lastly, age matters greatly. A woman who's 20 will think vastly different from a woman who's 28 and her expectations will be different. Once she's thinking of marriage and procreating, a man's height becomes lower in importance.

For all the guys here thinking height is this huge deal, you and I must live in different universes. If you watch couples anywhere, it's obvious the men who are with ladies come in all shapes and sizes. Lots of what makes men attractive transcends height.



But too many guys in the seduction community need simplistic answers and refuses to ponder deeper. Really sad.

 

[Bigpapa]

Lastly, age matters greatly. A woman who's 20 will think vastly different from a woman who's 28 and her expectations will be different. Once she's thinking of marriage and procreating, a man's height becomes lower in importance.

I do agree with most of what you say, but with this one I do not really agree

the shorter the girl is, the more important height will be if having children is something that she wants to pursue

mainly because she wants to balance her short height with the guys bigger height

The shorter the girl is, the more emphasis usually she will put on height

 

[CornbreadFed]

Anecdotally, the guys I know with the highest smost consistent lay are all 6ft 1 and under with a few being in the 5ft 4-5ft 7 range. Height can be a cheat code for lower value men because there’s no way in hell they would be getting women if they were average height and below. However, blaming your height for your shortcomings is basically scarcity/stubborness mindset incoded. A man is either using it as another list of excuses or a guy can’t get over the fact that some woman or women in his group rejected him.

 

[jhonny9546]

I am 165cm.

Height matters in how the woman feels about you.

There are some women, who even if they feel good with you, will reject you because you are not "tall" enough, even if you are taller than her. (These women are the ones who are too worried that if you come shorter in photos, then it will be a problem for her social image. Any woman will do it, but some are obssessed about this. You don't want this type of women anyway).

There are some women, who even if they feel good with you, will want you at all costs, even if you are shorter than them, they don't care.

Ive had both in my life, and I've noticed the first one will not get happy, they are in a costant search for something better.
You must always find the second woman, and you'll know you find one, by how you will be "respected" and "treated" by her.

Also, even if you have found the second girl, she will still want and have the desire to be with a "tall" guy, so keep this in mind.

In short, does height matter? Not too much.
But, is height an advantage? Yes, definitely.

In the end, I must admit I had to work to become stronger and stronger on this, while a tall guy had it easy

 

[CornbreadFed]

There are some women, who even if they feel good with you, will reject you because you are not "tall" enough, even if you are taller than her

Those women don’t represent all women. Say frick them and move on.

There are some women, who even if they feel good with you, will want you at all costs, even if you are shorter than them, they don't care.

Ding Ding Ding, but this also requires not letting your height or any other BS affect your frame and confidence

 

[HaleyBaron]

 

[BaronOfHair]

Similar to being pleasing to the eye, a fella's height has is simultaneously a blessing and a curse:

Being 6'7 may make you a superstar on the basketball court or the wrestling mat, great... Since 99% of life doesn't occur in such venues though, be prepared to regulalry dispell most folks's knee jerk inferences("He's a typical ruffian, who goes through life using his height and possible physical strength to steamroll everyone he encounters into absolute obedience")about you

Same way if you're handsome yet desire true companionship, you'll have to frequently demonstrate that you're not just a Himbo of f-ckboy who's getting by primairly on his looks/good for nothing except ONSs and week long flings + Be highly fastidious about your appearance. As has been pointed out elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-velocity-of-chad.284364/page-2#post-3163755 , attractive guys are judged more harshly than "regular Joes", when they cease to put effort into themselves