"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do tall guys really have it that easy?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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1. It is NOT an automatic "get every woman you want" kinda thing.

2. Height definitely DOES make it a lot easier. I used to go out with friends who were 6'5" and 6'7", and women were frequently gawking at them. There's a guy who makes content called King 6'8" The Great, go take a look at how women respond to him.

3. None of this really matters, because whatever height you are is what you have to work with.
 

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Is being tall a factor so influencial that tall men can get almost any woman they want?
I wouldn't go as far as saying "get any woman they want" but for some chicks it may be important. I had a tinder date where the girl was almost getting naked before we met and when she saw my height (I'm average, not small, she was like .8 inches taller) completely changed her behavior lol. I do not take it personal though. It would be like being angry because today is rainy, better to spend my energy on things I can control.

Also, when I was in high school for whatever reason a 5'11" chick (taller than me) had a big crush on me. To the point where some days of the week she would like wait for the time where I would be alone in the classroom and start talking to me. Nothing happened though, but I was and I think I still am a fun person to be around.
 

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1. It is NOT an automatic "get every woman you want" kinda thing.
Yeah, I don't think any guy is universally appealing in the same way that an extremely attractive woman can be. A top shelf woman is almost every guy's type, but I don't think it works that way for men. But a tall guy will get more attention from girls than a shorter guy will, it's an asset. They literally tower over the competition.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Yeah, I don't think any guy is universally appealing in the same way that an extremely attractive woman can be. A top shelf woman is almost every guy's type, but I don't think it works that way for men. But a tall guy will get more attention from girls than a shorter guy will, it's an asset. They literally tower over the competition.
From my experience, height is important till the point you are maybe top 30-40% of the male population. After that point it does not really help that much

though if you have an average height for a guy, you can still have a good chance as long as you are top on other aspects of you. But it gets trickier and trickier if you are bellow average as guy

if you are top 10% of the population does not translate to having it better than a guy that is top 20% or top 30%. Other factors start kicking in

usually from 6 foot over ( top 30-40% of the population - in Europe at least - ) you start seeing less and less benefits as you go on the height ladder from height alone at least
 
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My take on this, as a half sized human. well 5ft4. It never remotely bothered me growing up, to the point where I genuinely didn't notice it..OK sure..it subconsciously was there at times, and I suspect a lot of the knock backs i got were owing to my lack of vertical aesthetic lol.. but it never really had any impact on my thinking. But..

I think because I was social, a good talker, good at sports, slim but fit and lean (for my size) I had a touch of confidence, if nothing else.. I did ok, as good as some of my taller friends ? No. Absolutely not. But I definitely didn't 'noticeably fall short' IRL at least.. and pulled back so.e decent and attractive girls i probably 'had no right to'.

The dating app crap though, my word, its absolutely ruthless, I will not ever touch another app. Its a slippery slope if your confidence isn't on point in the first place, as a short or smaller than average guy. My friend suggested I asked round and approached thr tallest girls possible... I think possibly, I'd do this, but... I think I'd require some serious black coffee before hand.
 
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Key note really.. sure 90% of women OLD will give you the slip, or match and happily rididulule you..real life..still difficult, but be authentic and exude some charisma and good energy you stand a far better chance.. The Black Pill says yer doomed, well if thats the case.. may as well try and approach the ladies you desire, if your gonna be rejected, may as well be rejected by the 7s 8s and 9s..lol
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've been 6'3", poorly dressed, out of shape, having no confidence around women etc and gotten absolutely zero attention from them whatsoever.

I've also been 6'3", very fit, well dressed, and very confident around women and done quite well.

So while I'd never dispute the idea that being tall is an advantage, I'd never assert that being tall, in and of itsself, is gonna result in life being in easy mode with regards to attracting women.
 

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Key note really.. sure 90% of women OLD will give you the slip, or match and happily rididulule you..real life..still difficult
Maybe makes sense for guys not to focus too much on online dating, and just used it as a secondary channel?

online dating is full of people ( both men and women ) that have some sort of a mental problem

so not the ideal medium from where to draw any meaningful opinions about the general population
 

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Is being tall a factor so influencial that tall men can get almost any woman they want?
It helps grab attention at least. I'm not super tall but I'm in the mainline of tall heights that grab attention. In high school, I was one of the tallest there. Granted, it did not get me sex. I had to get fit before girls finally started touching me. I'd say looking fit is more important than height.
 

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Not really. Otherwise there wouldn’t be any shorter men in the gene pool.
 

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I've known a few tall guys who always got wide eyed looks from ladies.

But none of them had any game and they ended up with mid ladies.

If you legit think that all you need is to be tall to get the ladies, you've probably never had an extended conversation with a woman.

Your game sucks, your personality sucks, you're boring, but because you're short you blame it all on that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There is a sweet spot. If you're 5'10 to 6'3, that's a sweet spot.

If you're super tall like 6'9, there's no difference from guys being 5'8 when it comes to attractiveness.

That said, unless you are extremely short, most of your dating disadvantage is just in your head. You're not unattractive because of your height, you're unattractive because of your confidence issues. No woman wants an insecure guy.

Don't tell me you don't frequently see short guys in a couple. Stop using your height as an excuse.
 

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Barely anyone ever mistook Shaq, Andre The Giant, Tommy Lister, or the fellas who played The Hound and The Mountain over on GOT for panty droppers

If a fella has been maimed via The Ugly Stick, standing 6ft or more will strengthen his sex appeal in the way exhaustive plastic surgery has allowed modern Linday Lohan to recapture her 16 minutes of glory during The 2000s... Which is to say, "neglible", and even that's a gross understatement
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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