"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do really beautiful girls get intimidated or insecure?

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I know some really gorgeous girls. From when they were little, they have been so beautiful, they seem to get what they want anytime they want. No guy in their right mind would turn girls this hot down.

What would make a girl so hot intimidated or insecure?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I find these assumptions surprising:

"they seem to get what they want anytime they want"

"No guy in their right mind would turn girls this hot down."


Do you really believe these 2 statements to be true, really?


"What would make a girl so hot intimidated or insecure?"

People are either secure in who they are, or they aren't. How hot they are to other people bears little relevence. It's how much they like/respect themselves that gives someone security.

Any truly beautiful woman knows her value can't come from her looks because one fire, car wreck, serious illness, or ? and it is gone. Beauty does not hold a particularly high value to beautiful people (say that fast three times ;) )

Beauty does not equal peace of mind, joy, self-respect, or a successful life/loving relationships. No woman lays on her death bed thinking - "I was lazy and selfish, but my life was a success because, damn, I looked good."

Also, "hot" women know if you are born attractive, what credit do you get for it? - it's not like you accomplished anything - it's just a card you were dealt. It falls into the "whatever" category.

Hence their attraction to men who are not their "physical equals" as it has been expressed on this forum more than once (the bafflement of how the "ugly guy" gets the "hot babe") Often less attractive men also understand the over-valuing of physical beauty and demand substance from the women they are with. THAT is refreshing to to a woman who understands that defining self by your physical appearance is a flawed basis for an inner life.
 

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Believe it or not, the most beautiful of women tend to be even more on the insecure side, as they want to keep that image(Double Edged Sword). Also rejection is a big thing to them, they can't handle it. Beautiful girls might get what they want but don't get what they need, a real man.

For a better analogy, the female might want a nice guy who buys gifts, listens to her problems, tell her she's beautiful....but it isn't what she needs....she needs a man who she can respect....and still makes her feel special. If this wasn't the case, why would wives who have rich symp husbands cheat if they have all that luxury? Cuz she doesn't got what she needs.....a real man.
 

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"Also rejection is a big thing to them, they can't handle it." There is always a period in a goodlooking woman's life where she is rejected consistantly - because she is wanting to be valued for more than her looks (takes a while to realize that you looks are why people value you, when you realize it, you start to be really wary of why people want to be around you/ what their true motives are). When you require/demand to be valued for who you are, tons of guys walk. It is easy to attract Mr. Lazy man when you are beautiful because all they want to talk about is how hot you are... yawn. When you try to inject depth, they reject you.

As a woman ages/gets experience, you get to where you can spot Mr. Lazy Man as he walks towards you/how he looks at you, voice intonation/insincerity and no time is wasted (or heartache) with that guy. But to think that "hot" women haven't experienced rejection is flawed - maybe rejection for different reasons than why others are rejected - but the emotional experience of rejection is still the same.

Also, hot women are rejected because they are hot. They are often under-estimated in what they have to offer. A lot of men assume that is all there is, and don't bother approaching. Or if you look substantially younger than you are, you end up with guys substantially younger than you hitting on you (no offense to young guys, but really, what is the point???) or men in your age group who are approaching you because they think are20 years younger than you are. And they don't want to man up to the depth that an older woman requires (like have you read something besides a street sign in the last 24 hours?)

All of this to say that just because a woman is beautiful doesn't mean quality men are flocking around her - a really great man is just as hard to find as a really great woman.
 

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LovelyLady said:
I find these assumptions surprising:

"they seem to get what they want anytime they want"

"No guy in their right mind would turn girls this hot down."


Do you really believe these 2 statements to be true, really?
I started this thread for information on this.
I know some girls who do modeling, and make lots of money.
What could make them intimidated or insecure?
They are confident. They know they are hot, and they know they make good money. Pretty much every guy they see would sleep with them in a second. Maybe the only reason somebody would not is if he is gay or taken or something. Many guys are intimidated by such girls and these girls know it. We know why these guys are intimidated by these girls. These girls are intelligent, gorgeous, have been around the world modeling, make lots of money, and have had lots of fun experiences in their life.

You mentioned some things that make anybody secure such as fear of rejection or whatever. I still see no actual thing that would intimidate any of these girls. Do these girls ever get nervous? How can a girl who can get pretty much anybody be nervous?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The core of my business is internet sales, but it's marketing involves my participation in the fashion/beauty industry. Models deal with rejection CONSTANTLY - 99% of their experiences are getting rejected for jobs. You can't make it in the business if you can't handle rejection with grace (both ******dly as well as inwardly). Otherwise you get eaten alive.

What I feel you have not yet heard from me/perhaps I have not communicated this as well as I had hoped -

"How can a girl who can get pretty much anybody be nervous?" - is that her sense value is not being placed on getting pretty much anybody " she can.

Is there one particular woman you have in mind - or is this just theoretical?
 

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Beautiful women are not always confident. They recognise the power of their looks, but do not really respect that power, or those that are easily manipulated by it. There are a few men who are not intimidated or threatened by this power, perhaps through high self-esteem or experience with hotties, and these are the men that beautiful women find attractive, and risk being intimidated or insecure around themselves.

Bottom line, you can make em all blush.
 

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all girls are insecure. end of story

esspecially the hot ones. they are the most insecure. like lovely lady said, being hot has nothing to do with there being confident and secure. it's just plain dumb luck that they look the way they do. they have accomplished nothing, thus they dont desirve respect just from being hot. they know this and that's why they are insecure. thay are not happy with the part of themselves that matters, which could be personality, job, homelife, anything.

being able to "get anybody they want" doesnt matter at all in the real world. it gives them an edge in dating. but in school or work...forget about it.

it's like a guy being a hot player. he can get any woman he wants with his game and looks. but is that gonna help him in life? NO!
nothing is sadder than an old player. middle aged who has given his life tto chasing women. he has no job, education or nothing. he has nothing but pvssy. that's not gonna help him in the real world, and it's not helping the hot woman either.
 
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