"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Do NOT know how to read this chick.

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She wants to keep things at a slow pace. OK

When we're together, she constantly gazes at me..smiling. Her eyes twinkle, she kisses me, she says "I like kissing you." She's affectionate...she's great.

But the bummer is she was a nerd in HS. No guys. Reads fantasy a lot. Wants to move slow. Stresses that she wants to move slow. Been single a long time.

She rarely initiates contact. When I initiate contact she's happy and open. She's a big fan of Disney princesses, romance etc.

When I'm with her, she's very interested. Apart, she initiates no contact. My thought is is this is how she is wired. Should I play it cool and be patient?

I really want this girl.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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as is often told here: don't believe what she says, but what she does.

I could almost guarantee you if you two are hanging out at one's place and drinking, you'll hit it.

don't worry about her not initiating contact, she sounds like she wants to be chased.

keep chasing.
 

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Girls like these are extremely easy. Just remember the philosophy of: 2 steps forward 1 step back.

How to step forward: Talk about fate and destiny, depends on how you met, make up a story about how you two are meant to meet, meant to be together. You need to be semi-romantic and sweet with small guestures, be sensual with your kissing and kino.

How to step back: Push her slightly away by being indifferent at times, start taking back the attention that you gave to her, talk about other girls you have met with her, make her jealous. Joke about how you two are too different. Tease her shortcomings. If she's trying to play hard to get, ignore her. If she's interested in you enough she will break the ice. Then resume stepping forward.

Keep doing this cycle to play with her emotions and minds and she will have no idea how to make of you. Eventually she will be convinced that she is in love with you and she will happilly give all her first times to you.
 

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Ok, but what she DOES, is not act interested until she's in my presence. It might be a confidence thing. I DO get the impression that if a) we were alone, we'd hit it and b) she's probably an uncaged animal in bed. But these nerd girls are hard to dial in.
 

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8ball said:
But these nerd girls are hard to dial in.

They certainly can be. Before I knew any better I assumed they'd be the easiest to catch. Most often they are not.

do what tempestnight suggests.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So what should I do? I really like her an want to get her, but the other half of me says "Chalk it up as a loss..."
 
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