Do men who want to have sexual and/or dating abundance are better off leaving the Anglosphere?

[Mysterious_Detective]

Hey guys,

I have been thinking about this topic lately. I have realized that most Anglosphere countries(more so American than UK, Canada, or Australia) tend to be very prudish and have complicated relationships with dating, sex, and others. In these countries, if you are a man, you are made to feel guilty if you want to have sex.

More so because I have seen that "Witch Hunts" that men had to go through, for instance, a man kissed a woman once in five years, and he got in trouble. This type of "retroactive justice" seems to be more prevalent in the Anglosphere.

Meanwhile, I have been learning Spanish, French, and Portuguese, and it seems that overall, people in other cultures take a more "laidback" approach to sex, relationships, and others. It is not as taboo as a topic. At least, based on my experience, it seems like they lean more towards "**it is not a big deal."**For instance, I dated a French woman for one month, and then it ended, and we were still good friends.

I'm seriously learning French and starting to distance myself from the Anglosphere. I think that the Anglosphere is an excellent place to start a business or be an entrepreneur, but I wouldn't recommend it if you are interested in dating, hooking up..etc.

 

[2Rocky]

Live where you want to live because you like the culture, the income opportunities, the pace of life, and you will encounter the type of women that you want to meet. Regardless of if it is Anglo or not.

 

[Willie Naylor]

I know I'm new here, but I feel like some of you guys think you're taking a college class.

What's with the pseudo-intellectual stuff?

 

[Snag87]

I've been studying French and Spanish and am planning to spend a few months in southern Europe this spring.

I have noticed that these countries do seem more open minded in regards to sex and partying.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Actually moving to a country is very difficult, you're not going to get a job easily unless you speak the language as good as a native speaker. You also would be leaving all your friends and family behind.

Don't get me wrong, women outside of the Anglosphere are better, I've done a lot of travelling to different countries in Europe and Asia.

It's going to bring a whole new set of problems that you need to be prepared for, I say spend at least 3 months in France before making the choice to move.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

One of my plans, upon getting divorced, was to go overseas. For the reasons the OP brought up. Turned out, that was unnecessary.

 

[SW15]

Actually moving to a country is very difficult, you're not going to get a job easily unless you speak the language as good as a native speaker. You also would be leaving all your friends and family behind.

Don't get me wrong, women outside of the Anglosphere are better, I've done a lot of travelling to different countries in Europe and Asia.

It's going to bring a whole new set of problems that you need to be prepared for, I say spend at least 3 months in France before making the choice to move.

I tried to expatriate from the United States many years ago. I was not successful in doing so. It is very difficult.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I tried to expatriate from the United States many years ago. I was not successful in doing so. It is very difficult.

I have friends from Europe, Asia and Latin America all who moved here in the last 5ish years. All have consistently told me they always find it difficult to integrate because locals are so unfriendly or flakey. But they find each other and other expats super helpful navigating the obstacles here.

You would probably need to find other Expats from America, but Australians don’t really go away for uni the way Americans do. So, their circle of friends is usually comprised of high school friends. They don’t really know what it’s like to have to start over with a new social circle, so they’re not especially inviting or inclusive of new people. Tangentially related, people don’t go to pubs to meet people, they just go to have a good time with their friends, whereas in the states if you’re new somewhere, you just go by yourself to a bar and by the end of the night you’ll have made friends.

Depending on where you go the culture can be very different even among other anglosphere countries

 

[metalwater]

I know I'm new here, but I feel like some of you guys think you're taking a college class.

What's with the pseudo-intellectual stuff?

good observation.

different men have different persona types. none are right or wrong.

probably if all men are more carefree we would be happy more often instead of exploring space and creating inventions. alas, genetics partly makes us what we are.

others do not have the same belief in truth as each other and don't even process the info the same way. but somehow we get along because of rules and laws.

what do you suggest can help with all of that?

 

[SW15]

I have friends from Europe, Asia and Latin America all who moved here in the last 5ish years. All have consistently told me they always find it difficult to integrate because locals are so unfriendly or flakey. But they find each other and other expats super helpful navigating the obstacles here.

I have no idea why anyone would want to live in Australia, especially from Asia or Latin America. Western men who are looking to expatriate for mating purposes are looking at Eastern Europe, Asia, or Latin America.

You would probably need to find other Expats from America, but Australians don’t really go away for uni the way Americans do. So, their circle of friends is usually comprised of high school friends.

They don’t really know what it’s like to have to start over with a new social circle, so they’re not especially inviting or inclusive of new people.

In the United States, going away for college does not usually mean going away to another country, though some do some study abroad programs where they do 1 semester of one full year of their 4 years outside of the United States. Even study abroad participants are a minority of university students.

The most common way in the United States to do college is to go to an in-state, 4 year public university. Sometimes, this is preceded by 1-2 years at a community college, but this is less common than all 4 years at the in-state public university. In-state public university may or may not involve going far away. If you graduate from high school in Rhode Island and go to the University of Rhode Island, it's mostly your high school crowd. If you graduate from high school in the Dallas or Houston, TX areas and go to University of Texas or Texas A&M University, you're going to an in-state university multiple hours away from your parent(s) home. Those 2 Texas universities draw from all high schools across Texas and many out of state students. In the scenario, it's easy to branch out from your high school social cliques. Most students have an experience in between the Rhode Island and Texas experiences I just highlighted.

Private universities in the United States draw from many different high schools. Some U.S. students go to a public college in a different state (ex. they grew up in California but go to University of Kansas). This is a common tactic for those who graduate high school in middle class or higher homes in lousy states and want to escape those lousy states. Examples of lousy states would be Mississippi and New Mexico. Mississippi and New Mexico are high crime, high poverty, high teen pregnancy, limited economic opportunity states.

Tangentially related, people don’t go to pubs to meet people, they just go to have a good time with their friends, whereas in the states if you’re new somewhere, you just go by yourself to a bar and by the end of the night you’ll have made friends.

Depending on where you go the culture can be very different even among other anglosphere countries

In the United States, it's possible to meet people at pubs/bars/nightclubs. However, a lot of people go to their places with their friends and are closed off to outsiders. There were times prior to the pandemic that I showed up to night spots alone, did approaches, and it was no big deal. I noticed that hostility to outsiders in groups grew between the mid-2000s when I first turned 21 and the late 2010s.