Do looks matter less than money after a certain age?

[Trainwreck]

Money is a defense not an offense. If you don't have a venue that gives you access to women then you are better off using your wealth to purchase prostitutes.

 

[bigneil]

Money is a defense not an offense. If you don't have a venue that gives you access to women then you are better off using your wealth to purchase prostitutes.

Translation: if you're not a hipster bartender from a frat house, you must be paying for it.

Did anyone need more proof that Trainwreck is a woman other than her calling hotter, younger women prostitutes? It's also a confession Trainwreck is an unattractive woman.

Then she farts out some crap about money being a defense?? Money is the ultimate offense (while Trainwreck's sorry butt is ultimately offensive).

 

[Trump]

Interesting. So you're saying status is more important than money even if one guy had more money.

Come on bro. Adult film actress has 1M in her account. Hollywood actress has 500K in her account. Who are you going to bring home to mommy and say 'she will be your future daughter in law and the mother of your grand children?'

I know a lot of you guys want the easy way out to meet attract and sleep with women, but it rarely works. You got to work, educate yourself, put time, effort, commitment. Then, even if you don't sleep with the girl, you know you have done everything possible to put yourself in the best position.

That's why I don't understand the guys who say 'money, money, money, money, money.' OK. You live in 1.2M penthouse or 2.2M penthouse, your game, education, friendships, conversation skills, selling skills, look, dress, and overall behaviour is going to change because you have a bigger place with a nicer view? I don't think so. If you are alone Friday night in a 1.2M penthouse, you are going to be alone Friday night in a 2.2M penthouse.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Whatever your age, you can look at the whole game as a game of top trumps.

She has a scorecard, and so do you. It doesn't really matter about the criteria, the aim is basically to score more points than her over all.... add whichever criteria your want.

Say, for argument, you are 38 and she is 28.

Your score (ten max):
Looks - 8
Personality - 8
Resources (money, material assets) - 9
Social connections - 7
TOTAL - 32/40

Her score (ten max):
Looks - 9
Personality - 7
Resources (money, material assets) - 6
Social connections - 8
TOTAL - 30/40

That's SMV in a nutshell. You can be a broke 40 year old male model, and some average-looking wealthy business woman will still want your babies. Equally, you can be a 25 year old, fat slob millionaire and not one single woman will wanna fck you; except maybe the odd gold digga.

As I seem to always end up saying, applying one rule as a universal truth is binary, black and white thinking and therefore illogical. And, very blue pill. "If I do x, y and z, hot girls will like me and want to bang." Guess I'll just keep on saying it until it starts sinking in.

Life isn't as simple as needing / not needing money / looks / charisma. What we all need is to raise our SMV in every respect. You won't get by on life by relying on one thing, and one thing alone that can so easily be taken away.

 

[bigneil]

Your score (ten max):
Looks - 8
Personality - 8
Resources (money, material assets) - 9
Social connections - 7
TOTAL - 32/40

Her score (ten max):
Looks - 9
Personality - 7
Resources (money, material assets) - 6
Social connections - 8
TOTAL - 30/40.

Great point. It's about your total value versus her total value. That's why if she slept with you, it doesn't matter why, you were good enough.

 

[Reykhel]

And unfortunately I think this means as I get older, paying for sex will be my only option.

That's a negative belief the seed of which will grow and manifest itself into a self fulfilling prophecy..

What's stopping any man going to a bar, having a beer and chatting to women and pulling one of them back home with
him for the night, or a few hours.

Really, what's stopping any man going out and doing that tonight?? Believing that you can: confidence.

If you need other ****e to build up your confidence, then your confidence and inner game are like a house of cards.

Ask yourself, "what's stopping me going out and doing that tonight?" and then listen.....

The answers will reveal all of your hangups and excuses which probably all boil down to the belief: "I'm not good enough right now"

When I have my new car.....women will want me...
When I am earning more money.....women will want me....
when I put on 15ib of muscle......women will want me.......
When I buy a new wardrobe....women will want me....
When I learn to dance.....women will want me.....

....and the list goes on. A ready made belief system (Paradigm) that keeps you stuck.

You're good enough now. Today. To go out and pull some woman, for the grand price of a couple of beers. Good enough now.

This is enough.

 

[AJ84]

And unfortunately I think this means as I get older, paying for sex will be my only option. Perhaps that is the natural order of things. Perhaps I am just entering a new stage in my life and I need to come to terms with this.

I should spend more time on the real estate forum and less time here.

Maybe not. I guess it depends on the kind of women you are looking for? If you're stuck at a certain age range preference that stays the same as you get older then yes you likely have to pay women in some way. But if that age prefences is adjusted as you get older (ie at least 10 yrs younger so when you're 40 she's at least 30 and when you're 50 she's at least 40 etc), there's a better chance of finding something real with mutual attraction and interest.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

That's a negative belief the seed of which will grow and manifest itself into a self fulfilling prophecy..

What's stopping any man going to a bar, having a beer and chatting to women and pulling one of them back home with
him for the night, or a few hours.

Really, what's stopping any man going out and doing that tonight?? Believing that you can: confidence.

If you need other ****e to build up your confidence, then your confidence and inner game are like a house of cards.

Ask yourself, "what's stopping me going out and doing that tonight?" and then listen.....

The answers will reveal all of your hangups and excuses which probably all boil down to the belief: "I'm not good enough right now"

When I have my new car.....women will want me...
When I am earning more money.....women will want me....
when I put on 15ib of muscle......women will want me.......
When I buy a new wardrobe....women will want me....
When I learn to dance.....women will want me.....

....and the list goes on. A ready made belief system (Paradigm) that keeps you stuck.

You're good enough now. Today. To go out and pull some woman, for the grand price of a couple of beers. Good enough now.

This is enough.

I'm too shy and don't know what to say. To call me "socially awkward" would be an understatement. My social skills are only slightly better than those who have autism.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Yall pretend that women are robots and use math equations to decide who to date and when to use hypergamy.

'I like Dave, but Dave's networth is 80,000 and John's is 100,000. Guess I have to leave Dave for John. Sorry Dave. Hardy he har'

That's not how it works.

Like someone already mentioned, I think this arguement is boiling down to men in search of a magic bullet that will make them feel better. "I-if I just focus on m-money I will be a-awarded HB9s for my hard work."

As I always say, you guys seem to miss the actual tangible factors that dictate who dates who. Factors such as:

• Proximity
• Shared social groups
• Familiarity
• Shared values
• Shared interests
• Status
• Culture
• Matching Phenomenon

People date who they are most similar to personality and value wise. A goth chick is gonna date a goth guy. She's not going to date Matt just because he is rich. She wants to date someone who is similar to her. Even if she wanted to date Matt, it would still be unlikely because Matt isn't in her proximity. Matt doesn't frequent the same venues or social groups as the goth chick.

Dating is much more complex than "LuKs vS mUNiez."

 

[Reykhel]

I'm too shy and don't know what to say. To call me "socially awkward" would be an understatement. My social skills are only slightly better than those who have autism.

Well at least you're honest about your "weaknesses, which shows a level of humility. A healthy and necessary ingredient
for true healthy growth, imo.

So, now you have a starting point, something that can be worked on...

I don't believe that money and success solves all inner game problems. So believing that until you own that Bentley women won't want
you is an erroneous belief and one that will set you up for disappointment. If money solved all inner game problems then why are there
celebrities, singers and successful people who kill themselves? Obviously they weren't all that happy despite their success....
Here's the key and where the money is everything guys seem to get their knickers in a twist.....am I saying that you shouldn't pursue financial independence, career success, wealth and enjoy the fruits and lifestyle of wealth? FVCK NO!!!!!!! Pursue your goals!!!! But do not fall into the trap of thinking:
"I'm not enough until............(insert whatever goal) eg I get that dream job/I have xxx amount of money invested/saved etc"

Or the self help trap
"I'm not enough until I fix.............(insert whatever "defect" needs to be fixed)

Life is a journey......not a destination............
So presume your goals (finance, career, etc) but live now, be enough now..........be a work in progress, but may you never be
perfect.......

So how do you get what you want?

What do you want? you identified an issue...."your social skills are slightly better than autistic"

It's best not to focus on the "defects", it's best to cultivate the opposite.

For example, you would like to have the social skills of Casanova.......

Now the question that you need to ask yourself (at all times) is:

How do I get what I want?

(how do I develop the social skills of Casanova?)

Sit with a pen and paper. What are the answers....