"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i made arrangements with this young HB to give me a time to meet, i said i was busy friday but tonight or tomorrow would be good.

she comes back with 'possibly tonight but i won't know till 6ish. otherwise i can definitely do thursday'

note she offered the day i did not mention as being good for me. should i respond or just wait if she follows up for tonight after 6?

i was thinking of sending now 'ok let me know around 6'
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Stop thinking so much man. Be your own master and do what you want.

but yeah - respond back with "ok let me know." or don't... who gives a fvck. This just seems so trivial.
 

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Come on Brother; respect yourself. You TOLD her what days worked for you and Thursday wasn't an option. So that leaves tonight, and she said she'll give you a yes or no around 6pm. Leave it at that; any further communication reeks of neediness; like she doesn't know to let you know, you have to tell her to let you know....needy. If she doesn't let you know by 6:30pm tonight, you will go and do something fun on your own. If she calls you do not answer because you are out having fun and it was SHE who missed out. Then call her tomorrow and say, "hey, I missed your call last night; what's up." You are the prize that she has to win over. Make her chase you. What do you care if it falls through; you've got 5 other chicks dieing to spend time with you. Prize mindset!
WOW. I like the prize mindset and "let her chase you" ideology, but that's over the top. They had plans, something came up. That happens all the time on both ends. Wouldn't be a big deal if he cancelled on her right?

She made a counter offer. She's still interested. If Thursday works for him, then the date is still on.

All this "Thursday wasn't cleared ahead of time so that's a sign of disrepect" is bullsh1t. Women aren't mindless robots and their schedules don't evolve around us. Obviously he shouldn't be at her beckoning call but she doesn't have to be at his either.

The beauty of a relationship is two separate lives compromising into one. My sister flakes on her fiance sometimes, doesn't mean she isn't crazy about him. Men AND Women ought to have their own independent lives and that balance is what makes us healthy.
 

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drift king said:
i made arrangements with this young HB to give me a time to meet, i said i was busy friday but tonight or tomorrow would be good.

she comes back with 'possibly tonight but i won't know till 6ish. otherwise i can definitely do thursday'

note she offered the day i did not mention as being good for me. should i respond or just wait if she follows up for tonight after 6?

i was thinking of sending now 'ok let me know around 6'
You need to flake OUT ON HER no matter what she says or does she is is exibiting indifference cause she is juggling many many options and you are not near the top of her long list of men to-do.... I know it will be hard for you to do this cause you dont have as many options as her but its the only way to make her respect you....

IF A WOMAN WANTS TO DO SOMETHING.. SHE WILL THERE WILL BE NO IFFYNESS BAOUT IT...
 

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what's interesting is that i haven't seen these posts till now..

i ended up meeting her on thursday in the end. (this is the same chick as the 1 who i kiss closed but criticised her kissing technique while we were kissing cos i was nervous and anxious and couldn't stop talking) she said i 'keep giving a running commentary about everything..' and looking rather annoyed about it.

since then i've kiss closed two other dates consecutively so i'm less nervous now. but i note what you've written above for maybe a more secure HB?

in the end it didn't matter cos i met her and she's young (18) but for an older HB of 23-24 i probably may need to flake out on her as i got lucky this time?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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drift king said:
she said i 'keep giving a running commentary about everything..' and looking rather annoyed about it.
Be very careful about that. It will zap out all the positive vibes she is feeling.

You're giving the commentary because you are on here too much. This site makes you over-analyze everything.
 

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yeah i know. because i've already done that have i ruined it?

it's not necessarily the process of seducing but more i'm nervous and can't stop talking.. i'm just like that.. since that night i've been fine cos i hooked up with 2 other girls. it's just unfortunate she was the 1st one i met last week.
 

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You should have not accepted her contract like this and instead you should have set up the date when is good for both of you with 100% certainty. I would rather wait a week and make sure she shows up than be sitting there wondering if she will show up on the date or not. I hate those types of girls.
 

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yeah i know. because i've already done that have i ruined it?
I don't think so. It just ruins the moment. If you did it on every date, you would ruin your chance... but doing it once isn't the end of the world.
 
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