"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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joe45

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i have a question? something about myself first. 26 yr old chinese canadian born guy,never had a gf or been in a relationship. met up girls mostly off the net, and u could say dated one -kissed her -was the most i did. the longest-(so called meeting /hang out, not sure if even a date) i would say is 3 months and shortest being one date. i don;t have a lot of friends/or even a network of ppl. the 2 guy friends i have are also like me-no girls, pretty much loners.

i ask a online friend this and also a close friend as why girl don't want me as a bf or anything longer than lets say 2 dates ? one reason is b/c i have nothing to offer.
meaniing-no money-work -but don't make a lot, is it that big of a factor not having a car - vancouver transit is top notch-can afford a cheapo car, but don't realli need one and its too expensive-insurance is 2k a yr and gas is 1.3 litre, don';t have a good job-finished my college 2 yr diploma in business ,but can't find work related to the field, since i lack work experience and also i believe a lot of the good jobs are introduced and networked throught ur own network of friends and ppl ya now.

i also been so called not even good looking-jsut very very average- heres my pic i have 2 of em http://www.myspace.com/47975576.

so is it true really, a guy with not a career oriented job,(call centre type of work is what i am doing) but went to college with a dilpoma, has no car and takes the bus everywhere he goes, has money,but not at all rich, very so called just plain average looking. oh ya and is my 2 yr dilpoma in business very just so called average educated.

i also was sheltered as a child , so my social skills are just like average , i mean i talk a whole lot now. i talk with everyone at work. i make chit chat about everything. i was very shy and quiete growing up and sheltered , that is why i am a late bloomer.

i have nothing to offer ,so no girl would want to date me for long and keep me as a bf. ): what can i do ? advice please
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Tha Realnezz

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Kill Yourself...:rock:
 

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joe45 said:
i have a question? something about myself first. 26 yr old chinese canadian born guy,never had a gf or been in a relationship. met up girls mostly off the net, and u could say dated one -kissed her -was the most i did. the longest-(so called meeting /hang out, not sure if even a date) i would say is 3 months and shortest being one date. i don;t have a lot of friends/or even a network of ppl. the 2 guy friends i have are also like me-no girls, pretty much loners.

i ask a online friend this and also a close friend as why girl don't want me as a bf or anything longer than lets say 2 dates ? one reason is b/c i have nothing to offer.
meaniing-no money-work -but don't make a lot, is it that big of a factor not having a car - vancouver transit is top notch-can afford a cheapo car, but don't realli need one and its too expensive-insurance is 2k a yr and gas is 1.3 litre, don';t have a good job-finished my college 2 yr diploma in business ,but can't find work related to the field, since i lack work experience and also i believe a lot of the good jobs are introduced and networked throught ur own network of friends and ppl ya now.

i also been so called not even good looking-jsut very very average- heres my pic i have 2 of em http://www.myspace.com/47975576.

so is it true really, a guy with not a career oriented job,(call centre type of work is what i am doing) but went to college with a dilpoma, has no car and takes the bus everywhere he goes, has money,but not at all rich, very so called just plain average looking. oh ya and is my 2 yr dilpoma in business very just so called average educated.

i also was sheltered as a child , so my social skills are just like average , i mean i talk a whole lot now. i talk with everyone at work. i make chit chat about everything. i was very shy and quiete growing up and sheltered , that is why i am a late bloomer.

i have nothing to offer ,so no girl would want to date me for long and keep me as a bf. ): what can i do ? advice please

Hey bro,

One of my best friends Papa, you may know him from neil strauss' book "the game," he is asian as well, and probably even worse looking. Sorry Paps.

This guy gets laid like a rockstar, if he can you can to. You just need to know where you begin, visit fastseduction.com/discussion....every top pua has started there.
 

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You need to update your look. First, I would suggest a new hairstyle...short and spiky on top. Asian guys tend to have really straight and flat hair...so you're going to have to use some product. Don't smile really huge...but when you aren't smiling it looks like you are frowning/scowling...makes you look mad. You want a more welcoming expression on your face without making it look forced and dorky by smiling too big. Trim your eyebrows...they are thick and are drawing attention away from your eyes. If you can get contacts you could try that as well. Make sure you aren't wearing khaki pants all the time...jeans or fashionable casual pants. If you want to dress up then go with slacks like you'd wear with a jacket (suit). You might also benefit from more skin care attention...a lot of guys don't use skin products...but they can really make a difference.
 

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Wyldfire said:
You need to update your look. First, I would suggest a new hairstyle...short and spiky on top. Asian guys tend to have really straight and flat hair...so you're going to have to use some product. Don't smile really huge...but when you aren't smiling it looks like you are frowning/scowling...makes you look mad. You want a more welcoming expression on your face without making it look forced and dorky by smiling too big. Trim your eyebrows...they are thick and are drawing attention away from your eyes. If you can get contacts you could try that as well. Make sure you aren't wearing khaki pants all the time...jeans or fashionable casual pants. If you want to dress up then go with slacks like you'd wear with a jacket (suit). You might also benefit from more skin care attention...a lot of guys don't use skin products...but they can really make a difference.
Slightly offensive, yet interestingly honest.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hitman10000

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First things first, Read the DJ Bible

http://www.sosuave.com/bible/bible.htm

Second thing, Go back to school to improve your educational background

Third thing (most important), Stop being friends with your current friends and delete yourself off of Myspace.com
 

Wyldfire

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Hitman10000 said:
Slightly offensive, yet interestingly honest.
I'm always honest. Why do you think some of the more sensitive and touchy guys get so mad at me? I won't tell them what they want to hear...I tell them the truth.

My post wasn't intended to be offensive...it was intended to be helpful. While looks aren't everything...you NEED initial attraction in order to get close enough to a member of the opposite sex in order to "sell yourself" as a person. I told him how he can improve his look so that he can find more success with the initial attraction.
 

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Your profile and picture screams, "hi my name is jj, would you like a d1ck." You look and sound desparate...


That saying, you're still AFC in your brain. Converstion to DJ involves different thinking, that is you gotta change the way you think, it's a state of mind. Pm me your e-mail, I got something for you.



Oh, about looks. Go to fashion for nerds, google it, and dress like that. Follow through with that advice on hair. Once you adapt PUA thinking your facial expression and all will be in tune, so dont' sweat it. You should hit the gym too, weights, do body building, works wonders on confidence, posture, sex drive, and you name it.
 

SucceedSocially

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Yeah, you're average looking, but average isn't bad. Most average guys are fairly attractive, just not square jawed adonis's. I'm average, most of the guys here are average. Also, if an average guy has good style and is in shape he gets a big boost in his looks.

Don't get too caught up in worrying about your 'good on paper' qualities (e.g., nice job, car, money). What draws people to you is the quality of your personality and what you have to offer socially.

Imagine a guy who's funny, interesting, has a lot of things to talk about, is super fun, plays in a band, has traveled the world, knows all the good places to go, has a lot of cool friends, blah blah blah. Who wouldn't want to hang around him? Would you really care that he works at a so-so job to pay the bills? It's just a job.

Or imagine a guy who's rich and has a high-status job and a nice car, but he's boring, bitter, out of touch, abrasive, and socially retarded. Who cares that he's a lawyer if you want some entertaining company when you go out?
 

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delete your myspace account

it is so easy to find people on there if yo know their name and basically can find everything they need to know about you
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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