"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do guys need reassurement?(woman quest)

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hi all,this is my first thread and i m not sure if women are welcome here,i hope so,in ur masculine network.
I have a simple important question,but first here is my story,i assume it's a little different than usual ones coz it satrted from the middle,wich means my Alphamale(he really is to me),said the magic word"I LOVE U" so fast after a week from our first meeting..
We met online,and he said it online,wich honestly made me doubt how fast could he knows me and love me,so i didn't beleive him..
By the way i am a girl with no experiences in love or with men and kind of SO shy girl,dono why,by nature and raising.
shortly he wanted my nb i gave it to him after mb 3 months of long chatting(5-6h)daily on msn,then he started to call me daily(international calls)twice a day and telling me like 10 times "I love u"in a call of 15 min time..
consequently i'm used to this attitude "Too much care","he controles the relation"(he is the one always calling)so i never wonder if i should call him coz he never miss it..here it comes the problem and the question,after having lots of problems together not big ones just arguing,i should admit i was the reason of all quarrels ,coz i was in a bad mood,for not working for a while(deeply afected my mood),but my alphaman was so patient and nice too me all the time ,wich made me love him and beleive him more..
Suddenly he vaniched for a month(30 days exactly)never online,his two mobiles closed.But i was kind cool about it(coz i love him and will wait for him forever)so i kept trying to call him day after day and he finally answered me,coldly,that he had problems at home that's why he is never online and wasn't closing his mobiles it was just bad network(he is in a country with bad weather)..
After that i was so cold with him and even see him online and don't respond,he turned me off,he could have send an e-mail or sms..
Shortly the relation took a sharp curve down,he calls me now every two weeks mb for 3 mn and barely talk online..
i dono what to do should i call him and treat him the way he was at the beginig or at least day after day or just leave him tell he calls ??the big question is;DO GUYS NEED REASSURMENTS LIKE GIRLS OR NOT???means,do u want a girl to call when u don't care?to show that she cares like before?or do u feel her needy and annoying,when u don't care u just don't care!! is this relation ending and i am just blind to see??is he calling just by sympathy?? hope wasn't too long just wanted to give all infos,by the way i know him now for 9 months. thanks everyone..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah most guys need reasured every once in a while.

But im confused, have you ever met this man?
 

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The relationship is not ending... I has ended already... 1st) Have you ever see the guy in real life? I mean, ok many ppl say find someone from network bla bla bla but does this mean that you won't see them? The Question here is, can someone love "online"? wtf... Can someone really love in the first week? wtf... An important matter also is, your age... yours and his... I can't understand how can someone say love so easily in an older age... And by older I mean over 20! I believe it was some kind of inner reassurment that he "has it" I would suggest to move on espeacially if you haven't even see the guy face 2 face...
 

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Eagertolearn said:
hi all,this is my first thread and i m not sure if women are welcome here,i hope so,in ur masculine network.
I have a simple important question,but first here is my story,i assume it's a little different than usual ones coz it satrted from the middle,wich means my Alphamale(he really is to me),said the magic word"I LOVE U" so fast after a week from our first meeting..
We met online,and he said it online,wich honestly made me doubt how fast could he knows me and love me,so i didn't beleive him..
By the way i am a girl with no experiences in love or with men and kind of SO shy girl,dono why,by nature and raising.
shortly he wanted my nb i gave it to him after mb 3 months of long chatting(5-6h)daily on msn,then he started to call me daily(international calls)twice a day and telling me like 10 times "I love u"in a call of 15 min time..
consequently i'm used to this attitude "Too much care","he controles the relation"(he is the one always calling)so i never wonder if i should call him coz he never miss it..here it comes the problem and the question,after having lots of problems together not big ones just arguing,i should admit i was the reason of all quarrels ,coz i was in a bad mood,for not working for a while(deeply afected my mood),but my alphaman was so patient and nice too me all the time ,wich made me love him and beleive him more..
Suddenly he vaniched for a month(30 days exactly)never online,his two mobiles closed.But i was kind cool about it(coz i love him and will wait for him forever)so i kept trying to call him day after day and he finally answered me,coldly,that he had problems at home that's why he is never online and wasn't closing his mobiles it was just bad network(he is in a country with bad weather)..
After that i was so cold with him and even see him online and don't respond,he turned me off,he could have send an e-mail or sms..
Shortly the relation took a sharp curve down,he calls me now every two weeks mb for 3 mn and barely talk online..
i dono what to do should i call him and treat him the way he was at the beginig or at least day after day or just leave him tell he calls ??the big question is;DO GUYS NEED REASSURMENTS LIKE GIRLS OR NOT???means,do u want a girl to call when u don't care?to show that she cares like before?or do u feel her needy and annoying,when u don't care u just don't care!! is this relation ending and i am just blind to see??is he calling just by sympathy?? hope wasn't too long just wanted to give all infos,by the way i know him now for 9 months. thanks everyone..
Hey are you pretty?
 

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Could you love a man where he was only good in bed and had a poor mental connection with you? Someone you didn't get along with at all but rocked you in the bedroom?

If your answer is no then think about this: Can you be in love with a man that you have a super mental connection with, but is horrible at sex?

I am not a woman so the answer might be yeah you could love a sexual dud if he stimulated your mind. However, as a man i don't think i could ever love somebody without being intimate with them. It is just not in my nature, i need that contact. I think DonJuanit0 agrees with me on that.

He probably met somebody. If he isn't talking to you that means he is not interested in you anymore. He doesn't wake up and think "oh i wonder what she is doing today". He doesn't care. So neither should you.

Go find someone in your own country. This will not go anywhere for you anymore.

To answer your question. You should definitely reassure him that something is going on and that you care for him. One of the best ways to do that is through Physical Contact ;)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Thanks guys for ur respond,well i don't know if u have ever thinked this way,but i feel more comfortable to know guys online,it feels more secure and real for me(the idea that the guy wants me only for my body scares me,specially when u are pretty,what about my feelings?my brain?i hate to be treated like a mannequin),we saw eachother on cam,we are both pretty,so the physical attraction is half way,well he intended to come to my country,but as he said he has some family problems..so we postponed for now..

BUT why is everybody here against the relation,is love all about"physical attraction"? well physical is pretty important for guys,but let's make it clear i was aiming for a serious relation,coz i am really convinced about this guy,we click as u say..lots of common stuff,doesn't worth it to be patient!?

I wasn't going to call him anyway,but i have lots of questions in my mind,i am confused,was it my lake of experience,that i did something to turn him off?if he was n't real why he was so patient on me,spending too much money on (international calls)?,(sometimes we talk for an hour!).

well he just called me after i wrote this thread,he was so nice,(we talked for 8 mn)if he is not really interested why is he still calling every 2 weeks?sympathy?when would u guys call a girl evrery once and while,i am not gonna put him in a girl network,to see other girls..no interest!

well my question this time is,i hope u will tell me this secret honestly,lol,when u lose interest in a girl,what really attractes u to her again??(i mean attitute,not physical for sure!lol)thanks everyone..
 

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Eagertolearn said:
Thanks guys for ur respond,well i don't know if u have ever thinked this way,but i feel more comfortable to know guys online,it feels more secure and real for me(the idea that the guy wants me only for my body scares me,specially when u are pretty,what about my feelings?my brain?i hate to be treated like a mannequin),we saw eachother on cam,we are both pretty,so the physical attraction is half way,well he intended to come to my country,but as he said he has some family problems..so we postponed for now..

BUT why is everybody here against the relation,is love all about"physical attraction"? well physical is pretty important for guys,but let's make it clear i was aiming for a serious relation,coz i am really convinced about this guy,we click as u say..lots of common stuff,doesn't worth it to be patient!?

I wasn't going to call him anyway,but i have lots of questions in my mind,i am confused,was it my lake of experience,that i did something to turn him off?if he was n't real why he was so patient on me,spending too much money on (international calls)?,(sometimes we talk for an hour!).

well he just called me after i wrote this thread,he was so nice,(we talked for 8 mn)if he is not really interested why is he still calling every 2 weeks?sympathy?when would u guys call a girl evrery once and while,i am not gonna put him in a girl network,to see other girls..no interest!

well my question this time is,i hope u will tell me this secret honestly,lol,when u lose interest in a girl,what really attractes u to her again??(i mean attitute,not physical for sure!lol)thanks everyone..
Ok caca face =) if you look at the age of the other blooming Don Juan responses then you'll know why they want physical physical physical sex sex sex bang bang bang.

Once they had enough sex in their lives then will they understand that it's a more deep yearning for companionship and wanting someone to know who they are inside.

Like you girls you probably had enough experience with sex, maybe molested when you was young by uncle Larry, then all the other boy friends you had banging you day in and day out.

And since you girls have the power to choose who gets to bang you from all the horn dogs out there, yall become desensitized to sex. Unlike these sexually frustrated blooming Don Juans, that need to have their fantasies fulfilled.

Even though me myself would still love to have sex with women, it's no longer the most important thing since I've had a lot, infact sometimes masterbating is better experience.

So don't be fooled when you hear some of the guys advocate sex being importante in making a connection. They can speak for themselves.

This guy you met I think he feels comfortable with you and can tell you things about himself and you accept without rejecting him and I guess you probably feel the same and feel very comfortable with him.

This kinda connection is difficult to come by and since you women read girly magazines like Cosmopolitan and such that teach you how to game guys then it ruins the natural way we males and females behave in courtship.

When you use techniques like ignoring him then you drive him away, you think he lost interest but no, caca face #2 is probably very in love with his online girlfriend, but feels very rejected.

It's these games that you women insist on playing that break the connection.
So go ahead and play em and us guys will counter attack with knowledge from our Don Juan forums.
 

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Whoa whoa hold up. I admit im young and i can be a bit sex crazed, but to accuse me of only caring about that?

What makes me care for a girl is when she kisses me and holds me. I like the feeling of being physical with a girl because it creates pleasent feelings in my head. Feelings that i then associate with her. Not all the bull **** stuff like "I love you" and "I can't live without you".

Otherwise anyone else is just a friend. If there is no physical **** between you then why not just call yourselves amigos
 

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Pathgen said:
Whoa whoa hold up. I admit im young and i can be a bit sex crazed, but to accuse me of only caring about that?

What makes me care for a girl is when she kisses me and holds me. I like the feeling of being physical with a girl because it creates pleasent feelings in my head. Feelings that i then associate with her. Not all the bull **** stuff like "I love you" and "I can't live without you".

Otherwise anyone else is just a friend. If there is no physical **** between you then why not just call yourselves amigos
I like to call them ca ca face.
 

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Who said about sex?!? :eek: I asked about love as a word she likes to say and believe in it! Jumping to conclusions like this by judging our age is preety mature! Gz! :) Eagetolearn nothing makes me wanna go back to a girl I have lost interest in... At least nothing works on me... I would again suggest to move on and find someone in your aera! Why would someone that you will meet face to face won't be interested in you?!? Why are you so certain that everyone out there is looking only for sex from you?!? See Jacob here... I mean, go out there! Search... There are men who will see your feelings and who you trully are! They don't have to live miles away from you!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hi,what the hell does ca ca face means?!?lol,hey Jacob i think i have lots to tell u here;first u said"Once they had enough sex in their lives then will they understand that it's a more deep yearning for companionship and wanting someone to know who they are inside." ain't this how immature guys act!? i beleive that matured guys would like to bang a girl that they like in total,i mean from all sides..Do u have the word healthy re
lation in ur dictionary wich is mentaly,physicaly,emotionaly click,that's what everyone should aim for.

secondly,why do u assume that girls have more sex experiences!!???does having lots of horn guys out there make them free to choose??or does it make more difficult?? or more confident about themselves? do u know that just that the idea that the horn guys have their own fantasies taken from every scene and clip freak the hell ra girls,''that they might not meet ur expactations,or they might not be enough for u,what i wanna say is ,the anxious is in both sides..

finaly,about playing u and ruining the natural courtship,for myself in this specific relation,u can see that he is the one playing here,he stopped calling or showing up for a month!!he turned me off,then he started to reconciliate again..a simple sms from one line would be enough for me to know he is not playing me,i was the one feeling rejected here!and why was n't he feeling rejected when he was calling everyday twice,for monthes!!

Anyway this relation is kinda reassurement for both of us,as Donjuanit0 said before, but telling u last a truth,it is really difficult for pretty girl to know guys in real life and to be sure that we click mentaly,emotionaly and physicaly coz u guys once u sparke a pretty girl,u start to hover and know her interests and everything about her,which makes us girls,always doubting if guys really click or they are just pretending to get their interest,u know what i mean..dono but this is how it is in here.

i agree with u PATHGEN physical relation is really great and important but not enough for a complete relation..

thanks guys:)
 

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Eagertolearn said:
Hi,what the hell does ca ca face means?!?lol,hey Jacob i think i have lots to tell u here;first u said"Once they had enough sex in their lives then will they understand that it's a more deep yearning for companionship and wanting someone to know who they are inside." ain't this how immature guys act!? i beleive that matured guys would like to bang a girl that they like in total,i mean from all sides..Do u have the word healthy re
lation in ur dictionary wich is mentaly,physicaly,emotionaly click,that's what everyone should aim for.

secondly,why do u assume that girls have more sex experiences!!???does having lots of horn guys out there make them free to choose??or does it make more difficult?? or more confident about themselves? do u know that just that the idea that the horn guys have their own fantasies taken from every scene and clip freak the hell ra girls,''that they might not meet ur expactations,or they might not be enough for u,what i wanna say is ,the anxious is in both sides..
finaly,about playing u and ruining the natural courtship,for myself in this specific relation,u can see that he is the one playing here,he stopped calling or showing up for a month!!he turned me off,then he started to reconciliate again..a simple sms from one line would be enough for me to know he is not playing me,i was the one feeling rejected here!and why was n't he feeling rejected when he was calling everyday twice,for monthes!!

Anyway this relation is kinda reassurement for both of us,as Donjuanit0 said before, but telling u last a truth,it is really difficult for pretty girl to know guys in real life and to be sure that we click mentaly,emotionaly and physicaly coz u guys once u sparke a pretty girl,u start to hover and know her interests and everything about her,which makes us girls,always doubting if guys really click or they are just pretending to get their interest,u know what i mean..dono but this is how it is in here.

i agree with u PATHGEN physical relation is really great and important but not enough for a complete relation..

thanks guys:)
Ah, now the true colors are coming out huh ca ca face? or should I say PICKLE LICKER!? :trouble:
 
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