"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do guys ask for sex!?

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New and truly puzzling phenomenom

I've talked to quite a few girls recently and they all tell me how guys have asked them to have sex with them, during parties while drunk, guys they've seen and whatnot

Well they didnt have sex with any of these guys

Im shocked...I always thought you just kinda went through trial and error and saw if the girl stopped you along the way

Well maybe im right if these guys asking dont get laid
Do any of you guys ask?

Is it not DJ...I wouldnt think it is

Is this all just girl reports on AFC behavior

I wonder how many guys are doing this
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You should be able to pick up on the signals as to whether or not to try without asking. If she is really feeling it just say "I'm going to get a condom", and see how she reacts. Only ask in desperation, or if you aren't getting signals after a while
 

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never ask... just keep on moving forward unless she says no...
 

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The only time I ask for sex is when Im at my wits end, Im frustrated the chick is playing and her Anti slut Defense is on high. Asking for sex is my way of saying im pissed off and Im ready to go home usually after being teased for an extended period of time. I never ask for sex from any woman, with whom Im not kissing or being physical.
 

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Don't say "Can we have sex" say "I'm gonna fvck you now like never before" or "WE're gonna have sex now" or whatever if you HAVE To say something.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Yeah i've never asked
Usually did the I'll get a condom deal
I was just wondering how pervasive it was
and if it was considered normal
 

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At that point, it should be painfully obvious that you both want it. Don't ask...just take. And if she says no, take a step or two back and try again later. :)
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
And if she says no, take a step or two back and try again later.
I would be cautious of that... Because if a girl says no, and you want no risk of being called a rapist for the rest of your days, it's 'safe' only if its another day after she says no.

ie:

Officer : Your being charged with rape.
You : But it was consentual.
Officer : Did she say no about sex at any time?
You : um... yes, but that was hours before we had sex, then she changed her mind.
Officer : You have the right to remain silent....
 

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I never ask. It usually goes something like:

hugging
kissing
moving towards bed
still kissing
sitting on bed
kissing
(next step will be a checkpoint, she might resist and that is when you know you aren't likely to get any) laying down on bed kissing, with feet still on floor (been blocked on this step once)
laying all the way on bed kiss
(if you got past checkpoint 1, then the next step is checkpoint 2)moving my knee inbetween her legs. (been blocked on this step twice)
moving totally between their legs (clothes still on)

At this point you are most likely homefree.

I know this sounds really basic and you are probably saying "well duh!" But the point is, that there are usually 2 or 3 major points in "making out," where a girl will stop you. From my experience those are A. laying down, and B. the leg move.

I've only been C blocked one time when I got past those two checkpoints and it was when I had a girl all the way down to her thong.
 

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I haven't asked for sex since I was in my early teens..... then again, I don't recall asking for it a lot. I think it was more like 'Gimmie some of that a$$..' so it's not really asking.... so no, you should never have to ask for it... you can demand it, but don't ask.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If you have to ask, you're doing something very, very wrong.

In fact, you answer yourself in your own post. None of the guys who asked for it got it. Women need to belive they aren't a slut. By asking them for it directly, you're begging for the B1tch shield.

If you've got her hot and bothered and you're teasing her, there's no way she's going to refuse short of deep religious conviction, and yeah, that's gonna happen... :rolleyes:

The only thing you need to say, if anything at all is 'I want you.' You can add 'now.' as an addendum to stress intensity or urgency, but even this is considered fore-play.

-CyranoDeBergerac
 

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I generally just go for it. if she says no, I back off and reassess the situation.
 
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