"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do girls really like ****y guys?

moneyisking

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I know that concept of ****y&Funny, but some of my stud friends tell me being ****y is dumb, so I shouldn't do it.

Lately, I have no clue what the hell I am doing with the girl things, so I find myself completely not doing or saying anything ****y, but is it true that girls will like you if you are some what ****y?

I am NOT talking about extremes of ****y where you would choke someone by giving them your self-praise... no no. Let me know.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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In my opinion, ****y is good only as a neg. Once the two of you are attracted to each other, its important to replace the ****y with funny and work on building a connection. If you do this wrong, and keep being ****y after the initial attraction, the girl will think you don't like her (or that you are an arrogant prick). In sum: use ****y as a neg when you need one.
 

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****y is what I used to do a few years ago. worked and got laughs sure. made you the funny guy

but its not good being the funny guy

one day i decided, i don't want to be the funny guy everyone knows is putting on a blatant show of ****iness...i wanted to be great, for real

so i worked hard, lost weight, studied hard, trained at tennis and swimming 2x as hard.

i became the sh1t in high school. i didn't have to be ****y anymore. i was naturally just exuding confidence because i knew i was baller and everyone else did too. much more effective. girls start coming to you. its wonderful. so instead of putting on a show, i suggest you really change your life. work hard, develop a passion, an obsession for something.
 

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Desert Fox said:
****y is what I used to do a few years ago. worked and got laughs sure. made you the funny guy

but its not good being the funny guy

one day i decided, i don't want to be the funny guy everyone knows is putting on a blatant show of ****iness...i wanted to be great, for real

so i worked hard, lost weight, studied hard, trained at tennis and swimming 2x as hard.

i became the sh1t in high school. i didn't have to be ****y anymore. i was naturally just exuding confidence because i knew i was baller and everyone else did too. much more effective. girls start coming to you. its wonderful. so instead of putting on a show, i suggest you really change your life. work hard, develop a passion, an obsession for something.
That's awesome. Unfortunately for me, I am at the phase where I am very conscious with the fact that I suck at women. My friend who is good with girls told me that the whole "girl thing" is actually NOT a problem.

But since I don't have girl friend, or had any lay, it is extremely hard to understand in the heart that it is not a problem. I think what you told me was the prime example that someone should never make girls his priority.

I know I should not, but sometimes it's so hard b/c I hate the fact that I have no clue what to do, and complicates me emotionally. Thank you for sharing your story, I will reflect on it.
 

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dap said:
In my opinion, ****y is good only as a neg. Once the two of you are attracted to each other, its important to replace the ****y with funny and work on building a connection. If you do this wrong, and keep being ****y after the initial attraction, the girl will think you don't like her (or that you are an arrogant prick). In sum: use ****y as a neg when you need one.
This is very true. Don't let it turn into arrogance. Use it in the beginning and turn it into confidence rather than arrogance. Chicks don't dig ****y or arrogant guys. You have to build some emotional connection. You have to make her FEEL something.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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moneyisking said:
That's awesome. Unfortunately for me, I am at the phase where I am very conscious with the fact that I suck at women. My friend who is good with girls told me that the whole "girl thing" is actually NOT a problem.

But since I don't have girl friend, or had any lay, it is extremely hard to understand in the heart that it is not a problem. I think what you told me was the prime example that someone should never make girls his priority.

I know I should not, but sometimes it's so hard b/c I hate the fact that I have no clue what to do, and complicates me emotionally. Thank you for sharing your story, I will reflect on it.
i hear you man. it sounds easy in my story but trust me it wasn't. i felt really lonely but committed to a lone ranger path of self improvement. girls ceased to be on my mind, but ironically they started coming to me more than when i was obsessing about them. i think on some level people can see when someone is on whole different playing field than the rest of the people they come across and kind of want to follow you.

it will be hard at first. you just have to (1) try, and (2) keep trying.

remember, the man on the top of the mountain didn't get there because someone dropped him there.
 

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Listen to me bro,

If u are not really ****y dont try to pretend to be.

If u are a wuss(NOT SAYING U ARE). Be a wuss, because u will be good at it.

There are women who actually like wusses. I SUGGEST U FIND THEM.



DeMarco
 

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To re-iterate

i find it does work. i do the ****y yet funny all the time and it works a charm

just make sure you're not being a arrogant prick

but it works for me because i am a confident guy and a bit ****y already
 

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Being ****y and funny works, and it is really really really simple. David DeAngelo just made it sound MUCH more complicated than it really is. When I first read about it from him, he made it seem like putting the two together was trying to put fire and gas together without making it explode. Okay huge exaggeration but it really has more to do with how you express your ****iness rather than phrasing your words together to come up with the ultimate lines.
 

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@DeMarcos: Well, I hear what you mean, but I never came across one, plus I used to be a big time wuss (not so much now), and I remember girls using me left and right... lol. I now see back to those days and how naive I used to be. I guess some girls could like wusses? Haven't seen one though from my experience

@Tom Stall: thats what I mean; be ****y but not too ****y. I will have to give a shot b/c I remember it worked little better when I was like that (although it never helped me get any of them)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's not the only method that works. There are several different things you can do, but C+F is one way to show confidence and demonstrate value. It's very important to make sure that you also emphasize the FUNNY part and not just the ****y part. She has to be laughing the whole time along with you.

If you're just ****y, you'll come across as a total prick. And even then, you'll still probably get more tail than a nice guy chump who elevates the girl onto a pedestal and constantly communicates through his words and actions that he's not good enough for her.

Nice guy frame: OMG, you're sooooo amazing!!! I'd be sooooo lucky to have you!!! You sweet, angelic princess you! I'll do aaannnyyyttthiiiing for you. I'm here to serve you. And hopefully in return, you will be sooooo kind as to allow me to give you an orgasm!!!

C+F frame: I'm attractive and I know it. I know you want me. If you play your cards right, I just might rock your world....
 

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you need to be geniunely c+f in your personality, else it will not work

it also takes practice, where you will either bee too ****y or too funny...practice will make perfect....
 

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kingsam said:
you need to be geniunely c+f in your personality, else it will not work

it also takes practice, where you will either bee too ****y or too funny...practice will make perfect....
Oh. But then, what about people like me or bunch of others who are not ****y or funny. Does that mean we will never be able to develop confidence? I don't know any other methods that can help me get good with ladies.
 

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Ask yourself this: who gets more tail: the ****y douchebag or the super humble, polite nice guy? I'm not suggesting that we should go to either extreme (and we shouldn't), but being overconfident is better than lacking confidence.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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