"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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do girls like this?

lamobatsman

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do girls like guys who go the extra mile? do they like guys who remember the samll thigns they say and guys who listen to them/what they like or dont like?
do they like guys who will go out of their way to make an effort to impress them?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you are already in an LTR, then yes, but only if you expect the same in return.
Before that, no. Thats AFC stuff.
 

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but what if ur getting to know a girl and u like them and u remember all teh things they tell you/ what they like etc?

what about impressing them on the first date etc? taking them somewhere nice
 

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have you read any of the dj bible? Thats a good place to get started.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Nothing wrong with remembering things, that's generally a good trait. But the going the extra mile thing just makes you look too subservient.
 

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i mean doing something different on a date. like the girl says she likes this abnd and u take her ona date to see that band or something like that. or she says she likes to be romanced and u take her to a really romantic restaurant?
 

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It's different if it's something both of you will enjoy together, you can put more effort into things like that. But doing something like taking her lunch to work, or going too far out of your way is a nono.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I will give you an example of something that my current significant other did that I liked, that made him stand out in a good way:

I hate chain restaurants. I always have. I prefer smaller, family owned, unique restaurants that you can only find in that area and aren't huge conglomerates with terrible overpriced food.

My boyfriend took me to a smaller, family owned restaurant that was very similarly priced to chain restaurants, but the food was better and the atmosphere was nicer. It made a positive impression on me, because he remembered what I had liked, and didn't really require all that much extra effort except going to a different type of place.

In essence, yes. Remember certain things is a positive trait. But you need to learn to discriminate who is worth the extra effort and who is not. Not all girls are the same or appreciate things the same way.
 

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Girls like Power
 

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^^^ good one.
 

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lamobatsman said:
do they like guys who remember the small things they say and guys who listen to them
This, in moderation, yes. The rest of it, most probably only damaged women will go for.

You have to make a girl feel positive things, and if you can throw an offhand comment about something she said she likes or doesn't like, or reference things she's said in other ways, then that can play a big part in building rapport.

BAD example: Remembering that she said she likes dogs, and buying her a dog for her birthday.

GOOD example: Remembering that she said she likes dogs, seeing one in the street at a later date and mentioning it; "Hey, you like dogs. Is that the sort you'd have?"

Of course some guys will say just disregard everything they say, but I like building connection and making girls feel good, even if it is someone I'm just fvcking.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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lamobatsman said:
how about cancelling ur plans for her?
Nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo. Sorry for the double post, should have read the whole thread first time out.

If you cancel plans for her, you're flaking on something else. You're placing her above other things. Not so good. You can cancel a lonely night of TV, or an extended fapping session for her, but if you have any good plans, no.

I suppose that changes in a LTR setting, but only a little.
 
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