Do girls ever know what they want...

[KEddie]

... Or is it all part of their master plan?

Ok, this'll be short and sweet.

Been friends with this girl for over a year. We hadn't talked for about 6 months. Then one day I sent out a bunch of e-mails to people I hadn't talkedto ina while to see how they were. She wrote back and said we should get together for lunch. So we did, I went not having any real expectations. We've always gotten on great and I genuinely enjoy being with her. We ended up spending the whole day together and just hung out and walked around town talking and laughing.

Now I've always been attracted to her, and who better to get together with than someone like her.

Now the problem:

She picked up a boyfriend in the span of the 6 months we hadn't talked. My fault for not doing anything sooner I know. So, now we've made plans to start hangin out more often like the days of yore, and i don't know if I should. Or if I should just bottle up my feelings and just enjoy the friendship we have.

My Question:

Is there any hope or should I just move on? Keep in mind i'd rather steal her away somehow. If there is hope, how would you guys go about it?

 

[DJDamage]

... Or is it all part of their master plan?

Ok, this'll be short and sweet.

Been friends with this girl for over a year. We hadn't talked for about 6 months. Then one day I sent out a bunch of e-mails to people I hadn't talkedto ina while to see how they were. She wrote back and said we should get together for lunch. So we did, I went not having any real expectations. We've always gotten on great and I genuinely enjoy being with her. We ended up spending the whole day together and just hung out and walked around town talking and laughing.

Now I've always been attracted to her, and who better to get together with than someone like her.

Now the problem:

She picked up a boyfriend in the span of the 6 months we hadn't talked. My fault for not doing anything sooner I know. So, now we've made plans to start hangin out more often like the days of yore, and i don't know if I should. Or if I should just bottle up my feelings and just enjoy the friendship we have.

My Question:

Is there any hope or should I just move on? Keep in mind i'd rather steal her away somehow. If there is hope, how would you guys go about it?

Your email reeks of classic Afcn'ss you need to read the DJBible.

First off you missed your oppertuinty. You let her become your friends first and once she sees you as a friend first, you will most likely remain one (you have no game, you can't pull this off and even if you did, it won't be worth it to spend all that energy on one girl).

Second of all if you become her "friend" you will become like one of her girlfriends. You will do stuff she wants to do become her emotional tampon and provide her with support while becoming even farther away from getting her.

I suggest you read the DJ Bible! you need it badley.

DjDamage

 

[DJDamage]

... Or is it all part of their master plan?

Ok, this'll be short and sweet.

Been friends with this girl for over a year. We hadn't talked for about 6 months. Then one day I sent out a bunch of e-mails to people I hadn't talkedto ina while to see how they were. She wrote back and said we should get together for lunch. So we did, I went not having any real expectations. We've always gotten on great and I genuinely enjoy being with her. We ended up spending the whole day together and just hung out and walked around town talking and laughing.

Now I've always been attracted to her, and who better to get together with than someone like her.

Now the problem:

She picked up a boyfriend in the span of the 6 months we hadn't talked. My fault for not doing anything sooner I know. So, now we've made plans to start hangin out more often like the days of yore, and i don't know if I should. Or if I should just bottle up my feelings and just enjoy the friendship we have.

My Question:

Is there any hope or should I just move on? Keep in mind i'd rather steal her away somehow. If there is hope, how would you guys go about it?

Your email reeks of classic Afcn'ss you need to read the DJBible.

First off you missed your oppertuinty. You let her become your friends first and once she sees you as a friend first, you will most likely remain one (you have no game, you can't pull this off and even if you did, it won't be worth it to spend all that energy on one girl).

Second of all if you become her "friend" you will become like one of her girlfriends. You will do stuff she wants to do become her emotional tampon and provide her with support while becoming even farther away from getting her.

I suggest you read the DJ Bible! you need it badley.

DjDamage

 

[DJDamage]

... Or is it all part of their master plan?

Ok, this'll be short and sweet.

Been friends with this girl for over a year. We hadn't talked for about 6 months. Then one day I sent out a bunch of e-mails to people I hadn't talkedto ina while to see how they were. She wrote back and said we should get together for lunch. So we did, I went not having any real expectations. We've always gotten on great and I genuinely enjoy being with her. We ended up spending the whole day together and just hung out and walked around town talking and laughing.

Now I've always been attracted to her, and who better to get together with than someone like her.

Now the problem:

She picked up a boyfriend in the span of the 6 months we hadn't talked. My fault for not doing anything sooner I know. So, now we've made plans to start hangin out more often like the days of yore, and i don't know if I should. Or if I should just bottle up my feelings and just enjoy the friendship we have.

My Question:

Is there any hope or should I just move on? Keep in mind i'd rather steal her away somehow. If there is hope, how would you guys go about it?

Your email reeks of classic Afcn'ss you need to read the DJBible.

First off you missed your oppertuinty. You let her become your friends first and once she sees you as a friend first, you will most likely remain one (you have no game, you can't pull this off and even if you did, it won't be worth it to spend all that energy on one girl).

Second of all if you become her "friend" you will become like one of her girlfriends. You will do stuff she wants to do become her emotional tampon and provide her with support while becoming even farther away from getting her.

I suggest you read the DJ Bible! you need it badley.

DjDamage

 

[DJDamage]

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[DJDamage]

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[cactus3178]

F*ck what's with the boards today?


Anyway, yeah homie....you probably missed the boat on that one. Don't wait or be afraid to mack.....I'm not sure if you got FZ'd or not.....hit her with some solid game and see what happens.

Either your about to be FZ'd if your game sucks, or your gonna get f*cked.

 

[mrRuckus]

... Or is it all part of their master plan?

Ok, this'll be short and sweet.

Been friends with this girl for over a year. We hadn't talked for about 6 months. Then one day I sent out a bunch of e-mails to people I hadn't talkedto ina while to see how they were. She wrote back and said we should get together for lunch. So we did, I went not having any real expectations. We've always gotten on great and I genuinely enjoy being with her. We ended up spending the whole day together and just hung out and walked around town talking and laughing.

Now I've always been attracted to her, and who better to get together with than someone like her.

Now the problem:

She picked up a boyfriend in the span of the 6 months we hadn't talked. My fault for not doing anything sooner I know. So, now we've made plans to start hangin out more often like the days of yore, and i don't know if I should. Or if I should just bottle up my feelings and just enjoy the friendship we have.

My Question:

Is there any hope or should I just move on? Keep in mind i'd rather steal her away somehow. If there is hope, how would you guys go about it?

Why do you want a girl who has a boyfriend and invites and meets guys she barely knows for lunch and spends the day with them? Shady business.

 

[KEddie]

Ok, maybe I didn't put this in my original post, but I more than just barely know her. We know each other fairly well to be exact.

I don't know what everyone's problem is with being friends with a girl. It seems to me that it would work to my advantage. And for all you naysayers, I have read the DJ Bible, and much like the real Bible there are things that I don't exactly take as canon.

So, I am her friend, we've known each other for about a year, slightly more. And I never even had a chance with her apparently. I mean come on guys, why are we constantly bound to the DJ Bible. We should think outside of the box, and figure out how all the DJs that have the hots fo their firends can break out of the FZ.

Basically, I'm pushing for new ideas. Maybe only for myself, but i'd like to think that there are other guys like me who want to say eff the system.

 

[DJDamage]

I mean come on guys, why are we constantly bound to the DJ Bible. We should think outside of the box, and figure out how all the DJs that have the hots fo their firends can break out of the FZ

The problem is that not reading the DJ Bible is what's keeping you inside the box. The point of the DJ Bible is to open your mind and think outside the box and then go out and field test it so we can be what we want to be. All the beliefs you know until now is what mainstream society wants you to believe (to believe that you are not good enough, to believe to accept what life offers you, to believe to place girls on the pedestal and think they are better then you etc.....).

If you apply everything you learned here, you wouldn't be in the predicament you are in now. I was thinking just like you 2 years ago and I am glad I was able to open my eyes and see all the stupid sh1t I was doing and correcting them. As a matter of fact I would enourage you to go after what you believe in because maybe you do need for reality hitting you smack in the face like a brick wall(it happened to me) and you will finally open your eyes to the truth.

DjDamage

 

[chaosphere]

Hang out with her, just not enough for you guys to become great friends and for you to suddenly be transformed into a giant emotional tampon.

Make sure that when you are with her, you bust her balls a bit and you drop lots of innuendos, etc... that should keep you out of the friend zone until the situation shifts to your favor and she dumps the chump sometime in the near future.

 

[flexion_]

Its not our fault if you don't want to listen to our advice.

Go smother her and spend another year of your life waffling around if thats what you want to do. Come back in a year and then read the DJ bible.

 

[KEddie]

I don't know why you guys are getting so hostile. I already know everything you guys are saying is right. The thing is I have great game, I go out with girls all the time. And sometimes on a lucky night I hook-up at the pubs.

I guess I have oneitis. As much as I can get other girls, I'd rather have this one that isn't all about stupid girl sh1t.

Even though it's traditonally a waste of time, I'd like to devote at least some of it to trying to get what I want, rather than just continuing the island hop from girl to girl and getting tired of them trying their Sex and the City crap on me.

 

[The Juan and only]

Don't listen to these guys. If you think its worth it (and it's not about to take over your life) then I don't see a problem.

Some of the more devout followers of the DJ Bible are so brainwashed that they'll scream "Next" until they're blue in the face whenever the word "friend" is mentioned; without thinking logically or considering personal circumstances.

The 6 month gap in communication will really help you here, if you can make her see that you've changed from that AFC loser you used to be then who knows.

Now, there are a distinct lack of techniques for turning a friend into a fvck -- mostly because good pickup artists dont tend to address the issue, they just say it's better to move on. In most cases I agree, but I say give this a shot.

I'm guessing that if you just run some solid game, using most of the stuff from the bible and lay on some well-delivered innuendo (don't think about it too much though - panicking about what you've said is decidedly afc) and also some kino then things could go your way. The kino is especially important, but is more of a problem if you haven't been doing it all along...just phase it in.

anyway, good luck but don't get too caught up in it...keep other options open.

p.s what dementia said about ignoring the bf is spot on in my opinion